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Regulating public life is always a balancing act between assholes ruining the fun for everyone and the regulations ruining the fun. You can bet that if public barbecuing was allowed, assholes would dump their trash everywhere and start fires by being careless.
Some other societies do a better job of policing themselves via social pressure. Unfortunately in the US it’s “fuck you, you can’t make me.”
A surprising amount of that is literally just asshats banking on nobody telling them to cut it out, because there is also very much a culture of just quietly being upset by the bad behavior then later posting loudly on a local public Facebook group instead of just walking up and asking them to turn the music down/pick up the trash/not set off fireworks in the middle of the airshow (a real world example where I spoke out on and the person immediately backed off and stopped setting off the fireworks)
Great idea, instead of punishing the people that dump their trash everywhere, just go and outlaw some unrelated activity!
Well, you have to catch people dumping their trash to punish them. Most often, you'll only see the aftermath of discarded packaging and sometimes whole grills.
Back in the 60s and 70s, it was very common to see anti-littering ads on TV, paid for by the government. They were ubiquitous, you would see them on TV every day.
The result was that young people grew up with the idea of littering being absolutely unthinkable. I remember seeing friends scold their parents for littering. Today, those ads don't exist, and I often see young people littering.
If the government went back to encouraging people to respect their community and the environment, it would solve most of the problem without having to pass laws, cite people, arrest people, etc.
If the government went back to encouraging people to respect their community......
HAHAHA right. Listen to those that disrespect the community the most..
oh shit! well payed police work takes effort!
Hi from Australia, where free public barbecues have been around for decades and that doesn't happen. Maybe you just live in a country full of arseholes.
In my neck of the woods (in the US) every public park has places for grilling. These places are usually kept clean. Local culture can vary a lot tho
I mean, it's likely the US so yeah no shit