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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Serious question.

What percentage of the population do you consider 'Far Left?'

So radicalized that they actually believe that there's no difference between Harris and Trump?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a diminishingly small number. For instance Gaza is a loud issue with strong divides. But polling shows it's a very tiny fraction for whom it's a deciding factor in their vote preference. It's just that the tiny fraction of people is very loud, typically young, and on social media like Lemmy.

For many of this tiny minority, it has become more a personality than a political or even ethical issue. They're wildly overrepresented in, for instance, discourse on Lemmy; conversely, they represent a tiny, almost meaningless amount of voters who would not vote for Harris because of it, no matter how many all-caps posts they make about EVERYONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR GENOCIDE.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Also, they never seem to notice what Trump did to the Kurds.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A higher % of those over 65 support Israel than the % of those under 35 that support Palestine. Those over 65 vote, those under 35 don't. That last fact is true no matter the country and no matter if there's a party centered around what younger people want. It makes no political sense to go and cater to people who won't vote anyway.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're getting downvotes. Sad, because you're only telling what is true.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

And I get it, it sucks but getting elected depends on getting votes and if there's a group that doesn't vote no matter what then it's no wonder the strategy doesn't revolve around them.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I hate this, but it's true.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I talked to a guy from Springfield - and he says personally he doesn't think it will make any difference to him whichever one gets in, because right now it's just talk.

So his idea basically is that whoever he votes for, he'd gonna get screwed over again... this is the decline of democracy and the rise of the post-truth politicians... in many ways, watching Trump is like watching Putin's mill putting out news - all fake and contradictory news helping to convince that all news and politicians are fake.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Back in the day, I thought that the GOP was silly to start attacking Bill Clinton on Day 1. They screamed about Travel-gate and Vince Foster so much that by the time they had an actual impeachable offence everyone ignored it. If they'd held their fire they could have actually thrown him out. I've come to realize that the nonsense attacks were the point; they wanted to muddy the waters so much that no one would pay any attention to politics at all.