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U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration's top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

"And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war," Vance said.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I gave up trying to explain to the sitouts why they did wrong. But they refuse to understand even the most basic concept of the lesser evil. All you hear when you discuss with them is "lib", "libtard", some basic insults and a fixed set of "reasons" why they couldn't get to vote for harris and why it's not their fault at all that pedohitler is president.

They are just cowards who refuse to admit they fucked up greatly. It's always someone else's fault with them.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If anything, their fixation on using GENOCIDE to attack anyone with a dissenting view, instead of engaging and considering anything other than GENOCIDE, has desensitized people to the word. Watch as i get smacked around for being a 'GENOCIDE supporter' lol.

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The thing about voting for a lesser evil, is you're still voting for evil. You're complicit in evil and then pat yourself on the back for it. You perpetuate an evil system and then are surprised when it gets more evil, and then blame those who tell you support someone not evil, while complaining about the evil you wrought. Its mindboggling.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fine, let's work out a system that's better and get it in place. In the meantime, this is the system we have: a two-party system. In the case of the last election, one candidate was clearly far, far more abhorrent than the other. If you can't see or admit that, then we don't have anything to discuss. Anyone who saw that, yet didn't vote, is complicit in us ending up with the far worse option.

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

The fact that you think voting for someone you admit was abhorrent is admirable is hilarious. Getting mad at someone who didn't do that is like offering someone the choice between dirt and shit for dinner, and then getting mad at them when they say let's find some actual food.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You sure keep avoiding the central question: do you think we would be better or worse under Kamala as compared to Trump?

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You literally didn't ask that until now. 😂 Can't answer something you didn't ask. Just like the election, you're oversimplifying things by trying to turn it into a binary choice. I don't think Kamala would have done anything to fix the problems that led us to Trump, and it would have given the fascists more time to organize instead of the chaotic mess we have right now. Maybe take advantage of that instead of attacking the people who are on your side?

and a fixed set of “reasons” why they couldn’t get to vote for harris and why it’s not their fault at all that pedohitler is president.

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