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[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 19 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I recently got allocated an m5 macbook.

They last like 15 minutes before they're chipped and scratched, the version of Bash they ship is a million years old, the UI is a fucking mess. Package management is a mess. The walled garden is a mess. I have had to brew this and fix my path for that just to have a working environment. This is ignoring the soldered on RAM bullshit. Can you even do memmap= to recover from bad soldered ram on a macbook or does it just become ewaste?

They sound nice and they feel nice until they're scratched.

Also the keyboards are heinous.

If Jobs was alive, he'd be punching people for re-inventing Vista Aero.

I thought the UI was supposed to be good.

Fuck these devices.

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

don't worry, the soldered ssd will fail and brick your computer long before the ram!

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And that's where the T2 chip keeps its firmware so when the soldered-on storage goes bad, the whole computer can't boot and must go directly in the ewaste..

I hate it so damn much.

🤡🌎

[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

yep! I mean soldered ssds are 100% replacable. it sucks and is expensive, but definitely doable with the right tools. but then they pair them with the t2 and underfill them trying to prevent exactly that

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Apple's UI has always been a joke. A case of looks pretty but is actually annoying and impractical to use. The greatest Apple joke is that you need to pay for a third party app to get basic window snapping. That is just one of many UI issues. It does look nice on screenshots though.

[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That’s not true anymore btw

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I know, since 2024. I've seen what they did, and their windows tiling and snap management is still egregiously inferior to almost every other desktop environment. So much so that people still pay for the app because it is so much better than default macOS, adding shortcuts, for example.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Honestly is really good now though I will say popOS is better. Windows is the worst.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

M-series MacBook shipping with bash? I thought they switched away from bash a few years ago.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

They ship with zsh

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The default is zsh, I'm not a fan. Bash 3.2 is present by default, however, and is as old as the hills.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

There was a licensing issue from what I’ve read. They were kinda stuck there until they said fuck it and moved to zsh.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Mine is a bit old already, the first m1 air, and I haven’t a bad word to say. Although I mostly live in the terminal anyway, zellij, aerospace, alacritty, fresh as my ide, very elaborate sketchybar for ricing and all that. I’ve not yet faced many problems I couldn’t solve via terminal or a temporary boot into the whatever unsafe mode the newer os versions have brought.

The aluminium chassis has been incredible and I can still open the lid with a single finger without needing the other hand. No other laptop I’ve ever tried has been able to manage that, even if it sounds so simple.

But because I already live in a riced up i3-ish environment instead of the actual macos gui, switching to linux is mostly about migrating my personal dotfiles to equivalents I already have set up for a few of my systems at home and various remotes.

So the change won’t be big in impact. Only thing I foresee myself missing is the lid and build quality and battery life

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Previous employer gave me an m1 pro and it just lived in a drawer until I quit.

I'm sure some salesrep got a nice nearly new linkedin machine after that.

The hardware is nice to touch but it is unethically designed by assholes who hold you, the device "owner" in complete contempt.

[–] esc@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago

I had m1 for a week or so and sincerely tried to use it, everything felt just wrong and basic things didn't work. All in all it was horrible experience, asked my old machine back. Working in a mac shop is tiring at least with windows laptops and desktops you can install linux on most of them easily and forget the pain.