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Session is shutting down in 90 days if STF fails to reach its funding goals. (getsession.org)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by TacticalToothbrush@discuss.tchncs.de to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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We had hoped this day would never come, but Session has now entered its final 90 days of operation. If we are unable to reach our funding goal within this period, the Session Technology Foundation (STF) will be forced to shut down.

To date, the STF has received approximately $65,000 in donations. This is enough to maintain critical Session infrastructure for the next 90 days. We are extremely grateful for the support Session has received from the community, but unfortunately this is not sufficient to retain full-time developers. As a result, all paid staff and developers will have their final working day on April 9, 2026. After this date, some team members will continue on a primarily volunteer basis to help maintain Session until July 8, 2026.

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[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, when talking about server costs, Threema somehow has been running on a 5€ lifetime license and business customer subscribtions for over a decade.

While briar and simplex are peer to peer and have nearly no ops costs.

Sure, it can be made to be very expensive, but I'm arguing that doing so is a business/design decision.

Servers can help improve the UX, but are expensive. Threema for example, only stores media on their servers temporarely, so they have way lower storage cost with a small tradeoff in userfriendlyness (of having to migratethe old media files you want to keep when you get a new phone). And so on.

If your nonprofit only has 65k, don't hire multiple devs and provide nice-to-have features that lead to high ops expenses in servers and storage. It's called minimal viable prpduct for a reason.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, but you're inherently wrong.

Well, when talking about server costs, (...)

We're not.

Threema somehow has been running on a 5€ lifetime license and business customer subscribtions for over a decade.

Most users doesn't even donate 1€ when using free messengers.

If your nonprofit only has 65k, don't hire multiple devs and provide nice-to-have features that lead to high ops expenses in servers and storage. It's called minimal viable prpduct for a reason.

They don't offer ANY "nice-to-have" features 😭 You can't even edit send messages, which I consider to be a basic reasonable feature (which is technically difficult to implement when having E2EE, etc. in mind)

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We’re not.

Huh? You linked me an article where server cost is the lions share of signal operation.

Most users doesn’t even donate 1€ when using free messengers.

How does signal operate then.

They don’t offer ANY “nice-to-have” features

If they don't have high server costs, unlike the example from the article you brought up, they should hire cheaper software engineers from a different country or scale down development and have a longer runway.

Like I said - them having this problem is probably due to poor planing.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago

I’ve read the article too and it also just seems badly designed. Their “storage costs” are most likely due to short s3 file lifetimes and so they’re literally just getting killed on storage for no reason. If they rented VPS space across the planet and just used normal hard drives their costs would likely drop instantaneously.