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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Slavery didn't end because the slaves revolted. It ended because white people fought to abolish it. The North could have allowed the South to continue on as a separate nation with slaves, but they insisted the Confederacy remain with the Union, AND end slavery.

Often the downtrodden need those in power to use that power to fight for them.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're a white savior

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, I have a degree in history. I prefer facts to vibes.

The simple truth is that slavery was ended by the Civil War, with a Union Army that was 10% black soldiers, and 90% white soldiers. That's just a simple fact, from our National Archives.

It isn't revisionist history to acknowledge that slavery was ended primarily through the deaths of white soldiers, and pointing that out doesn't make me a white savior. I have also heavily studied Critical Race Theory, and think it should be taught at a high school level in America. I think we could go a long way in educating Americans about the true and significant contributions of black Americans, but that doesn't require making up new facts that support our personal fantasies. That's MAGA thinking.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Sounds like you have a deep disdain for anyone non white, you should consider working on that. By the way, your degree, HIStory, sexist as fuck.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, I tried to be respectful, and offer facts as my reply, but this one is a special kind of self-righteous dickhead.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes that's why I'm asking you to work on your outdated, sexist and racist beliefs.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago) (1 children)

Nothing I said was wrong, and you didn't even attempt to dispute it. You just went straight to calling me names because I pointed out the simple historical fact that an enormous army of primarily white soldiers was the primary driver of the end of slavery. I acknowledged that slaves and black soldiers helped, but it is simply an historical fact that the war wasn't ended by a General Strike (which may not even have really happened, it was just one person's characterization of the situation), it was ended by the overwhelming might of the Union Army, which was 90% white. Sorry if the truth makes you uncomfortable.

You are a shallow thinker who doesn't understand that pointing out actual historical facts that don't align with your 21st century ideologies doesn't make me sexist or racist, just accurate.

Your insistence that I'm sexist and racist is ignorant, and silly. Besides, where did you get Sexist from? We were talking about slavery, so I could see where a confused person could somehow fall back on a racist label, but sexist? That wasn't part of the discussion in any way. That was just you piling on to someone you've decided to hate simply because they repeated a truth that makes you uncomfortable. You're the one spewing the bigotry, not me.

Maybe YOU should work on THAT.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

Your degree is in HIS-story. HIS being the prefix you're choosing to use. It's blatantly sexist by ignoring the plight women have suffered throughout time. Classic white savior tactic. Obfuscate the truth to push a racist narrative. You really think things would be better if the south won? Why would you even imply something like that?