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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm saying that there's a difference between "incorrect" and "wildly incorrect and insane delusions". She was so far away from reality that we shouldn't give her the benefit of the doubt any time soon.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But what about any of my statements implies we should be giving her a benefit of the doubt? And why would being more emphatic about her degree of wrongness have any bearing on that anyways? I feel, and I hope I'm expressing this as respectfully and open-mindedly as possible, that what you're taking issus with here is exactly proving my point that "our social discourse level still hasn’t evolved past judging arguments on the basis of the person making them."

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not judging the arguments. I'm continuing to judge the person. If it were a different person - almost any other person - then I'd have more grace. I agree with your position in the majority of cases. Liz Cheney, for example. Hell, even Dick Cheney.

But some cases are so extreme that I think it's ok to keep expressing doubts even as we agree with them.