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'No on-site doctor': Dental student died in ICU overseen by remote 'tele-health' physician who pronounced him dead on a video screen, lawsuit says (lawandcrime.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How is is legal to pronounce death without directly checking their pulse in person?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

RNs can get the vitals that allows a pronouncement. I do it regularly for hospice folks and it certainly ain't my name on the death certificate. Having an RN verify vitals for an active code is a bit weird though. But so is running a code through telehealth.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Paramedics (at least in NJ) aren't allowed to pronounce, but they're what's called online care (maybe, it's online something), and so they feed vitals to a doc over the phone, and the doc says okay call it.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Medics can pronounce in the field in Florida for "injuries incompatible with life", think rigor mortis, decapatations, already rotting corpses, etc

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's fair and we can do that in Jersey as well (and I'm just an EMT). Obvious signs of mortality it was referred to as back in 2003 or 2004 when I first got my EMT.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just look at the guy over zoom, i guess we have set the bar pretty low.