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[–] Teppa@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Total cost of power its very expensive. When you see how cheap solar is that's just the panels, you then have to deal with the intermittency, and the backup power generation for the periods where performance is degraded.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is outdated - the LCOE of solar/wind+battery storage is lower than fossil methods of power generation.

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Have a reputable citation?

Here's why renewables are expensive, which takes all costs into account for 100% uptime of power, without brownouts.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360544222018035

Most studies ignore a lot of cost.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That study is a massive dumpster fire, and most certainly not a reputable citation

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Do you have a study then, dont just come and take a shit.

I want the study to include storage, and maintenance obviously, and any backup power required for 100% grid reliability.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're trying to claim that a study based on the ERCOT numbers during the 2021 Texas winter storm is at all representative of anything. It's worth nothing whatsoever.

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The study included Germany too, did it not?

The point of the study was including the effects of intermittency and non-dispatchability, which is what makes LCOE a flawed metric.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There's little point discussing a study that is largely just pure fossil fuel industry propaganda

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 0 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 42 minutes ago) (1 children)

As opposed to green energy companies propaganda that rarely even mention the need for storage? Theres a tangible reason most countries arent fully moving to it for baseload power, its not a conspiracy.

Heres a longer video on it if you can stomach the fact nuclear is better than solar/wind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifUaM7uwjqU

I wont even get into the fact most refining and manufacturing is done in China using subsidized coal, and is why they are the leader in solar/battery production.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 35 minutes ago

Heres a longer video on it if you can stomach the fact nuclear is better than solar/wind

Lmao