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[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Francis beatified Junipero Serra (among others), so that's a huge minus in my book. But I guess the bar is in the toilet.

Also, don't anyone else feel statements like these are hugely hypocritical? The catholic church has benefited from the waging of war against non-christians for most of it's history to the point previous churchmen has created entire theologies of justified war. Now when they lead a great population of followers they can pretend to be peace loving hippies.

Remember, the last time a people had catholicism forced on them as the consequence of war was when Chile conquered the Mapuche in 1883 and placed them in reservations and worked to convert them.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's like saying that people denouncing violence should be quiet because their grandparents fought in WW2. This Pope can't change the crusades or the Spanish inquisition, but he can make a difference now. I'm no fan of the Church, but I appreciate his words.

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can't really compare the Vatican to WW2. But if you did, imagine if the axis powers still existed and got to keep most of their territories while telling their neighbours they just wanted peace but also promoting their generals and crimes as heroic and necessary.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

imagine if the axis powers still existed and got to keep most of their territories

This applies to all 3 major axis powers

promoting their generals and crimes as heroic and necessary.

This applies to Japan

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 1 hour ago

None of the axis powers exists.

This applies to Japan

And they are widely criticised, like they should be.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Also, don't anyone else feel statements like these are hugely hypocritical?

No. It's hypocritical if Popes actually speak on behalf of God, but not in general. Yes, previous Popes have said the opposite, but not this one. He isn't being a hypocrite. He maybe should call out the bad history that his faith has though. This honesty could really go a long way to change people's opinion on Catholicism too I think. Most people I know recognize how fucked up it's been (and still is).

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes, previous Popes have said the opposite, but not this one

He will still promote many of their previous campaigns and the individuals perpetrating them as necessary or good.

Most people I know recognize how fucked up it’s been (and still is).

I disagree. I have been reading up on the Spanish mission system and have multiple times been shocked by how even secular progressives will whitewash the missions to the end of the earth.