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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 0 points 16 hours ago

If you actually looked at the statistics, you'd know that's not the case. Defensive gun use is not horseshit, but being a privileged liberal is.

I did, did you? Crime victims who respond with a gun are 2.5 times less likely to get away from the offender than those who respond without one and 10 percent less likely to avoid injury.

Guns are a tool of equality for all manner of marginalized and dispossessed people.

This is an unhinged statement. Guns by definition are used to oppress the marginalized, weapons to force people to do what they do not want to do. To claim that they're "tools of equality" is bizarre gun-industry propaganda. Women in abusive relationships are 5 times more likely to be killed if their partner owns a gun. Women in the US are 28 times more likely to die to firearm homicide. "Shoot first" laws increase the odds that a minority is a victim of a violent crime (an anecdotal example is Ahmoud Arbery, who was shot and killed for the crime of jogging while black).

You also mentioned that 69k is an "extreme low", but it's likely an overestimation since it includes non-legal DGUs. Even then, the statistics show that this is less than 1% of property crimes and in nearly 60% of those cases the perpetrators weren't even armed. The picture that the NRA likes to push, legally using a gun against an armed stranger in a home invasion, is so rare there's not enough reports to even find a semi-accurate number.

Meanwhile, violent crime goes up if gun ownership does (when compensating for other factors like GINI): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0094119025000269

Your argumentation reeks of "Gun Culture 2.0", the project that the NRA is pushing to promote guns for personal safety in a dangerous world (as opposed to "Gun Culture 1.0", where the main motivation for owning a gun was hunting and recreational shooting). It's heavily pushed through a lot of propaganda in pro-gun magazines and commercials, ignoring all statistics showing owning a gun makes you less safe, and that the world around you in general is becoming safer overall over time.