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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're still using Meta spyware in 2026 and think you're getting true E2E without a backdoor, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How do they get the key? Isn't that stored on me and my chatpartners literal phone? You can only get is by physically unlocking it? Show me technical proof? Meta says they only collect metadata, but the actual data is encrypted... ofc that guy lies but then we can drag him in front of a judge. And you're right ruzzia also hacked meta recently by their linked devices or support bots... U got proof or just a hunch

[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

'Show me proof meta is a bad actor or I'll just take their word they aren't'

I guess that's an opinion to have...

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you run gpg yourself to generate the key pair, then exchange pub keys with your chat partner? Or did Facebook generate the keys for you from within a closed source application?

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if it has a backdoor it's literally not end-to-end encryption at least, and they say it is so... idk so they are literally breaking the law and we can fine them again?

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You’re misunderstanding what end-to-end encryption is. If they have a copy of your private key, it’s still end to end encrypted. The alternative would be akin to a TLS termination proxy, where your device would encrypt a message using Facebooks public key, they decrypt message, store it, and then Facebook uses your chat partners public key to encrypt and send to them. You cannot send an encrypted message straight through to your chat partner.

What I’m insinuating is that there’s no way to know if Facebook has a copy of your private key. The message is still end-to-end encrypted, it is encrypted by you using your chat partners public key, and passes through all of Facebooks infrastructure encrypted, until your chat partner receives and decrypts it. If Facebook stores the message, it’s stored encrypted. They can just decrypt it when subpoenaed or whenever they want bc they have the required private key.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ooo mb you're right yeah, also when you use backups I read... ok something to look into for myself to understand better fr, thanks for this comment btw