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The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren't necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days ("surge" because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

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[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Optional as far as systemd is concerned, perhaps, but it's designed to support a whole suite of software which will expect it to be used.

They're also making dubious decisions about how it will be done, such as how they'll handle the fact that date of birth is PII and something advertisers will be delighted to know. The laws they're trying to support require very limited information, but they're storing far more than that and they've actively decided not to protect it properly.

However optional it may be, they're effectively defining the standard for what will be stored and how it will be accessed by all of the software which will use it

[–] bobby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I will simply not store any data there. There is no need to resort to building my own distribution with a systemd fork, just as I don’t use this week´s Firefox fork because the shitty features of Firefox can be disabled with 1 click.

Using barely maintained forks because of optional features is a security risk.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago

the shitty features of Firefox can be disabled with 1 click

per shitty feature.

There are a lot of those features in firefox. Currently takes me over an hour to try to stop Firefox being a dick, if/whenever I install it. May as well just use LibreWolf, or some other browser or fork.

Same it systemd and any distro that has it as default. May as well just spare yourself a lot of bother, and just use something that has already removed the malicious "features".

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The laws they’re trying to support require very limited information, but they’re storing far more than that and they’ve actively decided not to protect it properly.

All systemd is storing is the DOB in YYYY-MM-DD format.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Which is more than the law requires. What they're supposed to report is an age bracket. You don't need to store someone's precise date of birth, and you certainly don't need to make it available to other software, to report a broad age bracket