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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because he’s already a charlatan grifting the poor and desperate for cash.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Kinda fucked up to draw that conclusion from him telling a rich guy to give it all to the poor. Not to him, directly to the poor.

The problem isn't Christ's doctrine, it's the endless lineage of grifters twisting it to take the money for themselves.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, I side with the fig tree. Show me a christian church without massive sin.

On that we can agree. It is my understanding that the only true "church" is just the collective population of believers, and that establishments/organizations of religion are anathema to Christ's teachings.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except I'm not drawing it exclusively from one verse.

I'm drawing that conclusion from an understanding of both his nature, and literally that of every other charlatan.

He was faking miracles in order to grift people out of their hard-earned money. Further more, it's quite clear by the same accounts in the gospels that Jesus did not in fact have any beef with rich people, per se, and often enjoyed the benefits wealth brought. (i.e. by staying in their homes.)

There's no reason to imagine Jesus was any better than any other faith-healing grifter.

And lets be perfectly clear here, those gospels also say he said he'd return and do the whole messiah thing, the final judgement, all that, before all of the disciples would have died. that clearly has not happened.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ah, I can see how you'd interpret the situation that way, if you suppose fake miracles were involved. I'm not convinced there were any miracles, real or fake, rather than such things being added to the account later by charlatans to lend legitimacy to their claims.