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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't like Proton after the CEO posted the pro-Trump statement and did not use them after that.

Its really weird how people are blaming Protonmail when it was the Swiss government that complied with the FBI. That to me is really suspicious. The US government is currently not a trusted source of accuracy, and for the Swiss to readily agree to it?

Worse, the chuds blaming the proton user?

Protonmail is used by a lot of reporters/whistleblowers. As what point is their work also a threat to the US government and will the Swiss force Protonmail to hand that over too?

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switzerland has been a proud fascist collaborator for at least a hundred years. Why wouldn't they cooperate with the US?

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're not a monolith any more than your country is. Which one is that, BTW?

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm referring to the state, not every one of its people. maia arson crimew did nothing wrong.

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Ruth Dreyfus, Yvette Jaggi, and Micheline Calmy-Rey who have served as head of state might disagree. We are non-monolithic all the way up.

We are the only diplomatically important country on earth in which the ability for the head of government to hold more than one competing thought at a time is guaranteed, by dint of there being seven of them, representing all of the major parties.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 hours ago

Oh, so your system guarantees that at all times at least one of those thoughts is "collaborate with fascists"?

If one person collaborates with fascists and the rest do nothing to stop it, then the fascist still gets what they want as surely as if the entire group had collaborated. You can list as many people who didn't personally collaborate with fascists as you want, as long as they didn't stop collaboration they are complicit.

So thank you for demonstrating "pride in a state that collaborates with fascism" for the class.

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

the CEO posted the pro-Trump statement

link?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What are some good alternatives to Protonmail? I'm talking companies that don't exploit their users and also that don't support unsavory politicians. I've been looking for one (I was not impressed with that post from the Proton CEO either). Thanks.

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Tuta and fastmail

I don't know the depths of mailbox.org's politics (located in Germany), but I use them with PGP + Thunderbird and it's very affordable, at €12/$14 (2GB) and €30/$35 (10GB + features) anually. I need to reup my subscription soon actually.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I concur, not a fan of any pro-Trump sentiment. That being said, I've never used their mail service but I've been attempting to use their VPN for a few months now and it's trash.