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ok, Hegseth is a dick, but showing that picture is disingenuous. look... Nazi's everywhere....
He’s a dick but also a fascist so…I don’t know what’s disingenuous about it?
The position of his hand in that photo and him being a Fascists seem more like coincidence rather than being related.
There are non-NAZI, valid in that situation, arm and hand movements which yield still photos that look the same as a Heil Hitler, for example waving for people to "cool down" (arm to the front and slightly to the side moving up and down, hand open, palm down).
(This for example does not apply to the actual video of Musk's NAZI salute, since a NAZI salute is the only arm and hand movement that matches what was shown in that video of Musk - in the face of that whole video the universe of alternative explanations is zero)
So this still of Hegseth with his hand in that position does not logically prove the guy is a NAZI or even a Fascist because there are other entirelly valid non-NAZI hand movements that would yield such a still.
Now, if that was a video of the entire thing and it was the same whole movement as Musk did, that's a whole different story.
It's what Hegseth says (including in this specific instance) and his actions that prove that he's at the very least a Fascist, not this single shot photograph.
I agree with all that, I guess I just don't see it as a problem!
Fair enough.
Personally I think that his actions and words provide so much and so ample proof against the man that misportraying a picture of him adds nothing to the proof against him whilst introducing doubt on the character of the critics that would use forms of deceit such as that misportraying.
In other words, it's a net loss rather than a net gain.
Further, as a Principle I'm just against all forms of misportrayal of a person and situation, no matter what the political color of those involved - if I was only against it when it was done to attack people I dislike, then it wouldn't be a Principle, it would just be me doing some performative-Morality.
Yeah, I can see that. As a principle, I agree with it, but I'll put it behind (or maybe on-par with) the principle of identify and embarass fascists at every opportunity.
I see your point, though I don't think there are many people who would see this and think "oh wow, he did a nazi salute? Oh...he didn't? Well now I don't trust the people saying he's a fascist." If a person can't see his actions and words from what they are I don't think we're winning them over anyway.