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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (14 children)

I support Age Verification

(Not to be confused with: I like Age Verification.)

For a few reasons.

    1. The government already has all of your info and is spying on you from any device with a camera or microphone and wireless connection and without a warrant or meaningful accountability. We know this objectively because the FBI, desperate to look competent, inadvertently publicized footage obtained illegally in the Guthrie case that shouldn't have existed.
    1. It's not 2014. We have enough information now to know definitively that social media (and increasingly, use of LLM's) is harmful to children's mental health, and that its negative effects are more pronounced on developing brains. (Though they affect adults as well.) These systems harm a person's mental health and cognitive abilities, and while this bit is anecdotal, I know several teachers who struggle to teach kids because they're no longer able to focus on anything for more than sixty seconds. (And the question: "Why do I have to know this if an AI can do it for me?" is becoming a common refrain.)
    1. Private entities also already have your data. Go look yourself up on spokeo.com or some other background check site if you don't think so. (And be sure to put in a request there to have your info deleted while you're at it.) Or sub to a deletion service that will remove it for you.
    1. People say that to cut kids off from social media will isolate them, but I grew up in a world where we only had email, chat rooms, snail mail, and land lines, and somehow we magically made friendly connections anyway. It's a nonsense argument, and ignores that social media itself is isolating people to a much greater extent.

Essentially, I think Age Verification is the lesser of two huge evils, and I don't expect the government in my country to force social media companies to disclose and change their algorithms to eliminate the harm being done to kids, so Age Verification becomes a necessary evil. (Hopefully a short-term one, but we'll see.) The social media companies have too much money for any civil suit to meaningfully impact them financially.

[–] SamemaS@lemmy.wtf 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I support it as well. In my country we already have ID verification that goes through banks. I can log into my healthcare system etc. by it.

Just branch out a service to social media sites that answers only one question: Is this person over 18? Yes/No.

They don't need anything else. By extension, this also answers the question if someone is a real person. Which is another thing I think we need on social media. Yes, maintain public anonymity but there needs to be some verification that they are a real person.

(Also, Spokeo got nothing on me, wohoo)

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 0 points 4 days ago

It certainly can work in a country where the government doesn't regularly use identification maliciously. The US for example does have a long history of spying and acting against their own citizenry and in that setting it is really hard to come up with a system where people aren't being tracked by the requesting party or the age verification party for the government to spy on everyone.

Glad it works where you live.

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