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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Technically the metric system is "the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce" as per the Metric Conversion Act of 1975.

You're just also allowed to use lbs and feet and stuff and most people do.

[–] surely_not_a_bot@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In this thread: people bending over backwards to defend their insane, non-logical unit of measurement

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Logical, mathematically convenient, but not practically convenient. Without a measuring tool, there's no good way to estimate anything besides a centimeter.

Every imperial unit of measure can be estimated whilst naked (but preferably clothed).

An inch is your distal thumb phalanx. A foot is your foot. A mile is, or was at one point, roughly 1,000 paces.

The weather can be estimated by going outside. Is it too hot? It's in the upper third of the 100 degree scale. Too cold? Lower third, might snow. Cool enough to fully dress, but not too cold, right in the middle.

A healthy, big person is about 200 lbs. A very small person is about 100 lbs.

Converting between these units is useful in science, which is why science uses metric. But you could live your entire life on earth and never need to know how many distal phanages are in 1,000 paces. It literally never comes up. Who cares?

It's why units are divided into fractions, rather than into a decimal system.

By the way, the only reason we use a base 10 numbering system in the first place is because we have ten fingers and it was easier for early mathematicians to count. But I digress.

If you're dividing a length of rope, and all you have is the rope, it's simple to divide it in half, and then half again, and then again in half. You could even divide into thirds, if you were feeling frisky. You just fold it over itself until the lengths are even. There are two friendly numbers that are difficult to do that with, though. Can you guess what they are? If you guessed 5 and 10, you nailed it, good job.

Same with piles of grain or hunks of beef or chunks of precious metals.

But what about units of volume, you ask? I don't have a part of my body that holds roughly 8 oz of fluid to pour out. No, for that you'll need a cup. Just a cup. Not a graduated cup with a bunch of little lines down the side. 1 cup. Or half a cup, or a third, or maybe a quarter cup. Again, easily divisible for easy measuring without any special tools.

But a gallon, you protest. A gallon is 16 cups! What the fuck is 16 cups good for? Why not 10 or 100, or create a decigallon for simple math? Because 16 can be divided in half 4 times. Measuring out portions of the whole is as simple as pouring out equal portions into similarly sized containers. Divisible numbers are easier to use without graduated equipment.

And that's why time is measured in 24 hours, each hour is 60 minutes, each minute is 60 seconds. There's a ton of history there, and we'll ignore for this discussion the inaccuracy of measuring a day or a year. If the metric system is entirely superior, why don't you demand we all switch to metric time? A year will still be roughly 365 days (again, setting aside the inaccuracy) but we could divide the day into 10 equal metric hours, or mours, and those mours into 100 metric minutes, or metrinutes, and then those metrinutes into 100 metric seconds, or meconds. 1 mecond would be 0.864 seconds, and a metrinute would be 1.44 minutes, which to most people would be an imperceptible difference in time. Hey, how many seconds is 1.44 minutes? You don't know without a calculator because we don't use metric for time, and it probably never bothered you once before now. What an insane, non-logical unit of measure time is.

Yes, metric let's us convert millimeters to kilometers, or helps us determine how many calories it take increase 1 cubic centimeter of water by 10 degrees kelvin. It helps with those things because the units are arbitrarily defined to make the math easier, not to make the measurement easier. But that's it, there's no additional sanity, no additional logic. It's easier to convert between units via math, because it was designed to be easier to convert between units via math. There are no additional benefits to the metric system.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A foot is a foot. Fantastic. Glad to know everyone has the same sized feet.

And the same length on their legs so we all pace the same distance.

I would say good troll, but it just seems too long to be ironic.

[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[–] 98jf98@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

When my American friends insist that feet and inches is just easier for them, I just nod in agreement and give them measurements using rods, chains and furlongs as well. If you're going to go Imperial, you have to know 'em all. An acre is a chain by a furlong, totally logical as that would be 4x40 rods which is of course 43560 square feet. I guess it makes complete sense when your world is only a few furlongs across.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

"Why do they use the much more complicated system?" "Nobody actually knows."

[–] johnthedoe@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

When I find a wood working video on YouTube from the states it blows my mind how anyone can not just adopt metric “This is 5” 4/57 and we need to cut it to 5” 5/45 and a half” bzzzzzzz.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I'll just leave this here: https://youtu.be/iJymKowx8cY

TLDW: metric is better because all the different kinds of units were designed to work together.

Where as imperial units developed organically, within specific trades/use cases. They're not all supposed to work together.

I use imperial because that's what I was raised with, but I recognize metric is better in many ways. My only gripe with metric is the gap in units between Centimeters and Meters. A foot is convenient size for most things.