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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

For what? There's not a better option, everything else is based on Chromium which is just moving to supporting Google, and also just removed v2 extensions which cripples what you can do with the browser.

I don't think anyone should ditch Firefox at this point.

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

As for my own opinion - I fully agree not to ditch it right now, unless you are super privacy-concerned.

If you are, and if you think Mozilla is a lost cause, then please, as a community, get together and organise a body that is financially and legally able to carry a FLOSS browser with its own web engine. Not saying this to be snarky or as a gotcha, I am just somewhat irritated by some people saying to ditch Firefox to then say the alternative is a Firefox fork with a team way too small to handle what is needed to maintain a browser project going into the future, if they couldn't build on the upstream code.

Because if you don't organise such an organisation, including eventually financially giving to that group if you have the resources, Mozilla will remain in the ambivalent position of trying to balance markets and ideals, with less and less of a bargaining chip on the 'ideals' side - and the web will continue to be further and further dominated by non-free software trying to make web standards more proprietary.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There is the brand new Servo, but I don't think it will be in par in the near future.

There are also WebKit based browsers.

This if you want to avoid gecko/firefox based browsers at all.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

WaterFox seems pretty good.

Also, as far as chromium goes, it's trivial to use literally any other chromium-based browser rather than Google's. Even Microsoft Edge hasn't killed Manifest v2 (yet…not actually sure if they plan to do it or not).

But the more people use chrome based stuff the easier it gets for google to dictate what is possible and what isn't by (not) updating the Foss repos for chrome forks

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago

WaterFox seems pretty good.

Lowercase "f," just like in "Firefox." And yes it is; I've been on Waterfox for years!

[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Worth keeping an eye on: Zen, based on Firefox, getting quite close to Arc

[–] Kaitly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago

I've been enjoying Zen, I use iceraven on my phone. I'm eagerly awaiting a Linux release of Orion.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago
[–] THX1138@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Nice try Google.

[–] bubbalouie@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Let 'im. Blah, blah, blah....all the programs you run have access to the data within, I stopped listening at 4:05, he got a little too excited about the app having access to data, I mean, wtf?! Mozilla was simply spelling out the details so this guy now has a thing to pick at and become excited about.

Drivel.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't watch the video but what possibly they can be switching to? Epiphany? qutebrowser? Emacs?

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 9 months ago

Finally, I am free!