Fediverse memes
Memes about the Fediverse.
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Right now, I just want twitter to lose.
No reason it has to be one cooperation. Could be multiple different appviews ran by trusted entities.
And if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle.
If it's disadvantageous to the money in control of it, it won't happen.
It is happening though. There’s workgroups trying to get their own AppView up, the https://freeourfeeds.com/ initiative announced yesterday, and then moving the register to an ICANN-like consortium.
People fleeing twitter to bluesky are like frogs jumping out of one boiling pan into another pan that's slowly starting to heat up.
So give me a Fediverse Twitter alternative that's actually a drop-in replacement for Twitter the way Bluesky is and that is (and this is by far the most important factor) as easy to sign up for as Bluesky is. People aren't leaving Twitter because it's "corporate" or "enshittified", they're leaving because it's the proverbial Nazi bar and they want to jump through as few hoops as possible to get where they want to go. Which is Twitter, minus the Nazi in charge and his followers.
Bingo, people don't join Lemmy because it's a pain in the ass to figure out how it works and if you're unlucky your experience is shit because you joined an instance that isn't federated with some of the major ones.
I've been saying it for a while now, make the decentralization happen in the background and make the front-end appear like any other website and then you've got an alternative that makes sense.
make the front-end appear like any other website
So like https://clubsall.com/, who fetches content from all of Lemmy without federating back?
Interesting
I was thinking a bit like regular websites. Let's say for Reddit, the hosting might be spread over a hundred servers owned by AWS with redundancy in case one crashed, but it could be a hundred servers owned by a hundred person instead (decentralize the back-end). You need an API to let people develop a front-end allowing users to interact with those servers, but the same credentials could be used on any of those front-ends and users wouldn't have an account associated with a specific server (just like you don't choose what server you're signing up on when joining Reddit).
So yeah, decentralized dumb back-end, decentralized smart front-end, making the experience as user friendly as any centralized website and still removing admins from the equation.
Possibly, I'm not super knowledgeable on the technical side, it's just ideas I've had since joining Lemmy and seeing the flaws with it.
Dude, the reason twitter is a shitty place to be is because of how it works. If you just move to another platform that does exactly the same, it will devolve into the same shithole twitter ~~was~~ is.
Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic "omg, look at this person, let's make fun of them" posts. It's entirely too easy.
Add to it a tiny character limit and the majority of thing people can post is flickers of thoughts and incomplete works. Forcing people to reduce their expression directly leads to information being lost and for confusion or misunderstandings to be more common.
It is insane to repeat the same thing and expect a different outcome. Bluesky might be nice right now, but when twitter falls, the same people will just move to the Bluesky and nothing will have changed.
Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic “omg, look at this person, let’s make fun of them” posts. It’s entirely too easy.
Bluesky allows you to block quote-tweets of your posts. That's already a good mitigating measure for this kind of harassment.
Another thing that Bluesky does well is blocklists. We should probably consider something similar here on Lemmy/Mbin, that would help to crowdsource moderation and reduce the workload on mods/admins.
The value of social media is 100% in who's on it. Vast majority of people neither know nor care what the fediverse is. They just know a lot of people who don't suck are moving to bluesky.
And the cycle continues
Just a note, a lot has changed since then: https://app.wafrn.net/fediverse/post/34675fdb-40fa-4696-8a3c-40126d428681
Any link to a non-Bluesky instance where people can register? I couldn't find it in the thread
There is no generic one available right now, though its easy to self host. iirc, there's ~1000 PDSes right now, which is pretty small compared to the fediverses 17,000.
Wafrn (app.wafrn.net), technically counts as they have bluesky integration.
If it's easy to self host, why is there none publicly available?
Because there's little incentive.
Anyway, wafrn does count, in my opinion.
irelephant@programming.dev and what exactly does "non-archival" mean anyway? How long is content stored for?