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[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps because I paused to read a little of the Dunciad before continuing with this essay, I think many of its attacks lack the precision and wit to justify their viciousness. I'm generally sympathetic to the premise, but whatever its merits it does not compare all that well with Alexander Pope. Maybe there is more insight and entertainment yet to be derived from comparing ChatGPT itself to Dulness.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

What is up wit h the design of this website. There's huge amounts of dead space.

The content though... it just reads like somebody who's pretty angry. I do like the odd rant here and there, but this one misses the mark. "I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again" was much more to my liking (despite the damn 3 column design).

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (10 children)

After all, there's almost nothing that ChatGPT is actually useful for.

It's takes like this that just discredit the rest of the text.

You can dislike LLM AI for its environmental impact or questionable interpretation of fair use when it comes to intellectual property. But pretending it's actually useless just makes someone seem like they aren't dissimilar to a Drama YouTuber jumping in on whatever the latest on-trend thing to hate is.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

"Almost nothing" is not the same as "actually useless". The former is saying the applications are limited, which is true.

LLMs are fine for fictional interactions, as in things that appear to be real but aren't. They suck at anything that involves being reliably factual, which is most things including all the stupid places LLMs and other AI are being jammed in to despite being consistely wrong, which tech bros love to call hallucinations.

They have LIMITED applications, but are being implemented as useful for everything.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago

Does a sealion have bootlicker nature? Ugh.

[–] mii@awful.systems 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's be real here: when people hear the word AI or LLM they don't think of any of the applications of ML that you might slap the label "potentially useful" on (notwithstanding the fact that many of them also are in a all-that-glitters-is-not-gold--kinda situation). The first thing that comes to mind for almost everyone is shitty autoplag like ChatGPT which is also what the author explicitly mentions.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (41 children)

I'm saying ChatGPT is not useless.

I'm a senior software engineer and I make use of it several times a week either directly or via things built on top of it. Yes you can't trust it will be perfect, but I can't trust a junior engineer to be perfect either—code review is something I've done long before AI and will continue to do long into the future.

I empirically work quicker with it than without and the engineers I know who are still avoiding it work noticeably slower. If it was useless this would not be the case.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

~~Senior software engineer~~ programmer here. I have had to tell coworkers "don't trust anything chat-gpt tells you about text encoding" after it made something up about text encoding.

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[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

In this and other use cases I call it a pretty effective search engine, instead of scrolling through stackexchange after clicking between google ads, you get the cleaned up example code you needed. Not a Chat with any intelligence though.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That ChatGPT can be more useful than a web search is really more indicative of how bad the web has got, and can only get worse as fake text invades it. It's not actually better than a functional search engine and a functional web, but the companies making these things have no interest in the web being usable. Pretty depressing.

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