Experts are alarmed
Me, a non-expert: also alarmed
this post was submitted on 30 May 2026
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South Park named these douche flutes, and I used that reference to shame my friend, he either quit using it or doesn't douche flute around me anymore.
Either way win win.
Thank you Matt and Trey.
Mouth fedora
China's revenge for that opium business
Didn't china crack down on vapes too?
For export? Maybe.
Germany did opium business with China? When?
Not really. But they profited from the outcome of the Opium Wars, a weak China. That's why the German emperor leased Qingdao for 99 years in 1898.
They got a very nice beer brewery in return so it's all fair
Beer diplomacy.
Nicotine is a potent antidepressant after it's processed into cotenine in the liver. The times are very depressing, of course antidepressants are popular
Between this information and "I feel like I've been standing my whole life and I just sat down" from The Orville, I'm about ready to trade 10-15 of my remaining years for a nicotine addiction.
I traded 30. Not worth it. Exercise, proper hydration and a good diet of fish, greens and light grains with the right spices can do just as good without the sledge hammer to the endocrine system (Not to discount the times the sledghammer might be necessary). Learn gardening, and any other skills you might need to alleviate dependence on the faltering infrastructure as a hobby - where there is a will, there is a way. Best wishes on maintaining the will - it's not always easy
Vape marketing pretty much undid all the progress made to get people to stop smoking.
Honestly I see it as this kinda fucked up thing that's pure capitalism greed.
Get people dependent on a super addictive chemical that has withdrawal symptoms as low as 1 hour intervals.
People spend a ton of money just to not feel the withdrawal symptoms.
It's bad for health. It offers nothing.
Its barely a stimulant.
Just have some caffeine. It's less expensive and not bad for your health. (In small quantities).
I've got two teen nieces vaping.
They think it's cool. All their friends do it.
I really thought the next generations were going to be lucky they weren't chained to a subscription that's scraping years off their life and pocket. But I guess not.
Fuck big tobacco.
Big tobacco owns the vape companies and funds bots across social media and idiots just parrot the lie they are safe, especially if they are already addicts.
You can't discuss facts about drugs to junkies. There is no shortage of Lemmings telling you huffing huge quantities of random chemicals at high concentration is safe.
I don't get this defence of drugs or the industries that produce this plight on the people.
Being dependent on a drug doesn't mean you were stupid or have no self control.
It just means you were a victim of manipulation.
We all have been manipulated at some point. It's unfortunate but when we are educated about how it was done we can do something about it.
You have a choice. Acknowledge that you have became a victim of this manipulation and get free.
Or stay a prisoner.
Continue to give companies your money. The ones that have stolen your health from you. Years of your life. And forced you into addict behaviors that guide your daily actions.
Remember that it gets a little easier every day to break free. The hardest is the starting.
There are also temporary medications to help with the withdrawal symptoms. Doctors will prescribe them. They have pretty good success. You have options. You don't have to do it alone or deal with the body withdrawal effects.
It's bad for health.
True.
It offers nothing.
False. It’s actually most addictive to those who it offers the most. Hence, ADHD risk of smoking is much higher. It’s not just impulsivity, but also the short term mental benefits that help reinforce smoking.
Even if nicotine has medicinal value, recreational doses (high) mixed with many other chemicals with the aim of causing addiction is way more detrimental than helpful.
There is health research showing indication of cancer increases. Though vaping is relatively new and it may take another 20 years to learn the full scope of the harm.
At present there are much safer alternatives for all of the issues you listed.
It's also important to note that treating withdrawal symptoms like anxiety and ADHD-like symptoms is not treating those conditions.
It causes them through withdrawal effects and then relieves them. It's part of the mechanism of addiction.
After a while people believe the drug fixes a bunch of their problems when the drug caused the problems or exasperated them to the level they currently are at.
This same phenomenon is noted with marijuana use.
Long term use increases anxiety. Though many daily users report that it helps anxiety. The truth is it makes anxiety worse over time , which in turn increases the person's dependence on using the drug to handle their increasingly dysfunctional levels of anxiety that they did not have before they started using.
You may not be surprised to learn that even prescription drugs like Xanax has the exact same effect and course of action on people.
Long term use increases anxiety and subsequently makes individuals even more dependent on the drug.
There are no shortcuts or easy fixes when it comes to drugs. They all build tolerance. Which creates withdrawal. Which is literally an opposition in the body to combat the drug and return it to the previous state. All drugs inevitably make whatever problem they treat, worse.
But we still use them because their benefit out weighs the cost in most situations. Especially for people struggling with daily functioning.
People with medical conditions.
But as a general rule, it should not be used to treat mild problems as it will make them worse.
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I argue that vaping is far far worse than cigarettes given that the ability to "smoke" indoors is much greater.
I recently quit smoking after 6 or so years. I had no choice due to $$ and problems maintaining a state id (super fucking hard if you don't have a physical address mailbox). I used to walk 3 to sometimes 15 miles a day as long as I had smokes. It was forcing me to get the fuck outside multiple times a day. Chain smoking plus cardio seemed to have a extremely positive effect on my blood pressure, because when I quit smoking, I completely stopped going outside 100%, save it for a minute or two throwing out the trash. My blood pressure SKYROCKETED and remains so ever since I was forced to quit smoking 🚬. Crazy but true.
I had literally zero issues going through the quitting process thanks to the nicotine gum (niccorette branded gum, the Amazon off brand had zero sweetener). It completely killed off the intense cig cravings I would usually get during no smokes periods. After a month and a half, I completely stopped going for the gum without even thinking about it. Done and done.
I'm constantly hearing others switch to vaping to stop smoking. I imagine if I was vaping, my addiction to nicotine would be much worse than with smoking, because the temptation to smoke (vape) would be easier to succumb to if I were able to smoke (vape) indoors. Above all, it is the nicotine that drives the urge to smoke (vape), it changes certain brain receptors and it's irreversible. It takes many years for the receptors to return to normal after smoking cessation, at least that's how it was for me the first time I quit smoking around age 21 two decades ago. Back then I quit cold turkey and it took 2 years for the random cig cravings to go away.
I've found quitting vaping is easier for the cravings than with cigarettes, because the tobacco has other stuff in it that makes the craving intense when I don't have those, but vaping is something that I can set down and not be bothered so much. Circumstances of the present moment are particularly stressful and I'm working on staying sober, too, so as I'm alone right now, I'm smoking, but I'm only smoking 3-4 puffs before putting it out. I agree, the ease at which I can grab a vape would make it easier to take a small hit, and I would instinctively do that, but under ideal circumstances, vaping has made it easier to set it down for an extended period of time before stress really took off.
If there's one thing nicotine is great for it's handling stress. As long as you have some on hand 😊
I once observed a time ago whilst on mushrooms and DXM, after a very specific type of closed-eye hallucination was going on, where I was being carried through a vibrant, breathing, living world, and I stopped to smoke some tobacco, and upon returning by closing my eyes, I was on the same "screen" as I left, but I was no longer being "carried" through this landscape. There was just a woman in a gazebo with a river and wind, all moving independently. This experience showed me that nicotine stops a process in my head that I discussed with a friend who was a cognitive scientist, but I forget the terms he used.
I have quite a lot of experience with DXM. I binged on it for 3 months straight. One or two 8 oz Robitussin syrup bottles per day. The local flea market was selling them for a goddamn nickel each the bastards!
Anyhow, one night I was swimming around in head watching the movie "21 grams". It's one of those mixed up puzzle type of movies where all the scenes are out of order. It was very jarring and intense.
After it ended, I went to lay down in my bed. My mind reeling, thinking about what I just watched. Trying to process it. After a minute or so, I started to doze off, in the DXM hazy type of doze. In that very moment, I had this intense sensation of two massive big rigs hitting going Mach 10 crashing into each other at the center of my mind. A psychotic break of some sort. Super crazy shit.
On a lighter note, I had a couple sleep screaming episodes during this DXM binge. I was repeatedly falling asleep and instantly SCREAMING my head off. This according to my roommate laying down in the bed across the room.
"DUDE SHUT UP!!"
My maladapted tulpa, Valmar, was repurposed into Rusterd on DXM on the same night Pandora first played Solar Fake's Nothing's Wrong
...but was that a command, to shut up? Am I under investigation? Do these Arizonan retards in blue not know who I am? No, it does not make sense that the FBI would tell them. That would go against their intentions of...well, y'know. Obviously.
What is reality? I have nothing to hide. I understand I look like the Johnny Bravo of Charles Mansons. I have the authority of the tree of life. My robes are washed (clothes are still dirty), but they are tattered because I have been so traumatized. That's where God has stepped in. And I think the FBI git that retard to flip way early on, so this ain't just a police state, it's a police vishnu.
I feel like I'm being set up all the time. I think my life partner has, and that the patient in the ward who answered the phone was really testing me. I think they're gunna say I'm some insane cult leader and I'm just an artist with some problems that have been exacerbated by the circumstances of dealing with my manipulative life partner in light of his declining mental health. But God said I would be fine. But God also said God wouldn't be there when the time comes. I don't have anybody right now. I can't make decisions on my own. I'm sorry I'm not good enough.
"You're on it all the time. With cigarettes, you might have said 'I've only got five minutes, that's not enough,' and then you didn't spark up after all. I don't even have to go outside to vape," Antonia says. When would she stop using e-cigarettes? "Right now, I feel like it's doing me more good than harm. But if I got pregnant, I'd stop immediately."
I hope this person gets help
vapes need to have a major crackdown
no more ads
no more sugary flavours
vapes need to have a major crackdown
no more ads
no more sugary flavours
As a first step, ban disposable vapes.
There is literal tons of electronics and lithium batteries getting thrown in the trash because of that bullshit.
The reason for that is shitty regulation. In their attempt to make vaping more expensive the government made laws that make those disposable vapes the most cost effective for manufacturers.
Flavors are fine, crackdown on the sale to minors. Adults deserve to have things that taste good if that's what they want
If we want that freedom then we need to be way fucking better parents, overall.
I don’t even have to go outside to vape
Because you're an asshole, maybe.
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