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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My vote is for 'doing fuck-all regarding Citizens United'.

Oh and not getting rid of the PATRIOT ACT.

... when the Dems had a trifecta, and he could have done it, if he cared to.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The dems having a trifecta does not mean that he has absolute power in deciding what to do with it. If it doesn't fly with the democrats as a whole, he can try, but would fail.

Let's be honest, the democrats as a whole would never have gone along with getting rid of the PATRIOT Act.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet when Republicans have one they get everything they want passed.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

Because the whole party wants it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The posed question was what would history remember about his presidency.

It was not 'why is this the case / how did that happen'.

You're rationalizing.

You're not 'wrong', but you're rationalizing.

Yep, he/they did not have absolute power.

But that was the peak of their power - look what they did and did not do with it.

They sold out the country, continued the selling out of the country... and effectively presided over the main event that literally formalized selling out the country.

Hopefully I don't need to explain that the President typically has a very large impact on the policies and politics of their party.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think history will remember that he did not do something, especially something that he had no power to do. He'll be remembered for what he did.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He'll be remembered for what he di

Bombing weddings, schools, and hospitals? Being denounced by doctors without borders? Signing off.on extending the patriot act? Persecuting Snowden and manning?

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Depends on who writes the books.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Certainly not when one of their own wrote most of it

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, most people will probably remember him as one of the presidents of the United States?

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly… probably. The first black president is kinda memorable, and while the other persons post might be true, along with other things, seems most likely to be that.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I was joking about how the question subtly says [at the end of the question] "as president"?

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Libya was his biggest mistake. The mildly redeeming thing about it is that he admits that and that his intention wasn't bad.

You compare that to the current leadership of the USA and it suddenly seems a lot less bad.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And, of course, less bad automatically means good. I only lost a toe instead of a leg, I should be happy and stop wishing I hadn't lost anything!

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ultimately you'll have to accept that people are people. If you'd randomly pick a person and put them in the oval office with the US army under their command they'd fuck some shit up. Particularly with all the outside pressure from different interest groups.

I'm not telling you to be grateful for Obama. Hate him, criticize him. Just be aware that he was probably in the top percentile of world leaders. You go ahead and roll your dice. Surely Shitface McAssclown will be a better leader.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Take everything bad Obama did. Make it happen in one day. That’s a Tuesday for Trump.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Butcher of Libya?

Wasn't that Muammar Gaddafi?

Hmmmm.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 14 points 1 week ago

Obama did some decent things domestically but he was pretty bad about killing middle easterners so I'll say it's both of them

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The average american tends to justify any horror perpetrated by the US military and its commander in chief if he is going to be a decent president with domestic policies

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And with Obama, we didn't even get the decency or good domestic policies either.

Just pretty speeches and excuses.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure here but among the other things I remember he campaigned with the promise to close guantanamo bay, thing that he didn't?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nope, and even more fun, he actually made ~~enhanced interrogation techniques~~ torture explicitly legal via EO on a New Years Day holiday. (I forget which one.)

[–] rounding_error@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

yes! goddamnit I hate it

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It sickens me how people still deify him in this country. Obama was and is a motherfucker, just fairly well-packaged and with great PR overall.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every president is a mother fucker. Since the beginning and until the end.

[–] Areldyb@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of 'em was one kinda sombitch or another.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I also won't forget that Russia and China did not vote against the intervention.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, one day relief from Twittler and Lemmy posts about this.

Way to steer the narrative.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone defending the black Reagan might want to review his time as president

[–] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wanna read this but it requires a Twitter account

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