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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

He needs fuck off to Israel

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Pay for my exit Benny and I'm happy to leave

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Yup! America is for the sick and the rich. If you ain't a rich pedo, they don't want you.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, I think he’s saying if you can’t afford to live here, you should die.

[–] ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

No, I think he's saying if you know I'm the enemy, I should die.

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"If you're tired, if you're poor, if you're among the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, please get the fuck out of here."

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Sorry, were closed.

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How has Ben's head not caved in from his phenomenal lack of brain?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Its not a lack of a brain. Its a complete lack of empathy. That is the root cause of most of this shitshow we are in right now.

It’s more than that. I’m friends with a diagnosed sociopath. Zero empathy whatsoever. And he is 100% without a doubt the most dependable and moral person I know. He always keeps his word, is always willing to lend a hand if needed, and is a champion for things like harm reduction as public policy - Gun laws, drug reform, police reform, bodily autonomy, etc… As a teen, he went through a satanist moral philosophy kick, and basically came to terms with the fact that empathy isn’t required for objective morality. Each person can choose to do good, simply because it is the right thing to do. I fully believe that he’d be a serial killer (or at least some high powered CEO who ruins lives for the people that work in his company) without that philosophy.

It actually makes him angry when conservatives do and say shit like this… Because he sees it as a complete moral failing on their part, not a lack of empathy. Basically the difference between “you’re doing bad things because you can’t understand others” and “you’re doing bad things because you refuse to do better.”

The former could be used as a crutch to explain bad actions, but he absolutely rejects that possibility because his lived experience has taught him that understanding or empathizing with others isn’t a requirement for morality. So he basically falls back to the opposite of Hanlon’s Razor, where he refuses to accept stupidity as a blanket excuse for malicious actions.

Stupidity can be used as an excuse for individual actions. “Oops, sorry I bumped into you. I wasn’t watching where I was going.” But it doesn’t work for explaining a long term pattern of behavior where the person has had opportunities to learn and improve. The headline statement is not an isolated incident where it can be explained away with stupidity or a lack of empathy. It’s more like “I go out of my way to shoulder-check people.” And that’s an intentional pattern of behavior, not an accident.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's supported by the structural integrity of his incredibly thick skull

Nazi gold. Endless nazi gold.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The acoustics in his head must be phenomenal.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It's just empty, it's not a vacuum.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

For context, he was speaking about living in expensive metropolitan cities, suggesting people move into less expensive places within the US, like the interior states. Ben says enough stupid shit to mock without isolating a quote from context to make it seem like he said/meant something else entirely.

Hell, there's plenty to push back on with this quote and argument even understanding what he actually meant. "Just move somewhere cheaper". Like that's a much easier thing to say than do.

  1. If you're unable to afford living where you are, then you're probably going to struggle to afford the costs of moving. Then there's the logistics of finding work and housing wherever you move to from another state. If you don't have money to coast on for temporary housing, gas and food, you either need a company willing to hire you and provide you assistance to move or a personal connection in the area that'll let you crash on their couch.

  2. Your field of work may just not exist in Guthrie, Oklahoma, or wherever. Leaving metro areas may mean changing careers. And those careers may not pay anywhere near as much either. Your costs may go down, but your wages might go with it.

  3. Leaving your home city means leaving all of your support structures. Your parents, siblings, friends, peers, etc. Some people may really depend on those. Or maybe someone depends on you specifically. Maybe your mom isn't healthy? Maybe you have a sister dealing with addiction? Maybe they need your presence to ensure their care.

  4. There are political, legal, and health considerations in changing states. Do you have an active sex life and don't want to be afraid that you'll die from an unaborted ectopic pregnancy? Have a trans child? Are you not white? Then you may be more limited in suitable places to live outside of metropolitan city.

  5. This sidesteps the actual problem here, the why of it all. Why they can't afford to live in the city they grew up in. Why is pay so bad? Why is housing so expensive? Why are groceries so expensive? But no, no. We can't question or address those things. That's just business baby. Free market capitalism at work. Let it ride, unregulated. Just move your ass out of the way to Hastings, Nebraska or some shit.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 5 points 21 hours ago

Terrific, balanced comment, though

  1. He wants you to die.
[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Your comment is exactly why they say this type of thing and why it always works for them: they spit out a curt catchphrase/gotcha/“just asking questions” and to even begin to address the absurdity of it you need a bulleted list of all the ways it’s wrong. By then, even the non-red pilled person has moved on and lost interest before reading a rebuttal, but they remember the original talking point. It’s worked far too well for far too long.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's an aggressive mix of the gish gallop and motte and bailey fallacies.

They won't even own their own viewpoints once you've gone through the effort of pulling apart the claim and addressing it. They'll tell you that you're reading too deep into it, misinterpreting it, all while putting out more nonsense for you to address.

There's nothing you can do with the average person not being invested enough in politics to inquire further, and the lack of controls on public speakers. Except stoop to their level I suppose.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So I will concede that he doesn't give half a shit about 4, and thinks that people who have less rights in interior states shouldn't have those rights anywhere. Furthermore I think he wants to separate the victims of his beliefs from ordinary working class people. Easier to hate a caricature of someone when they aren't your neighbor.

But I'll add 2 more:

  1. The cost of living is going up in many previously cheap places now too. Some it's not, my first apartment is apparently cheaper now than when I lived there, but it's not a place many people are going to want to live. The nearest cities which are historically budget friendly cities on the other hand are no longer budget friendly. And no the places that are cheap aren't scenic bumfuck nowhere, it's small towns that aren't pretty and don't have much to do, even outdoors stuff.

  2. Cheaper places are increasingly non functional in basic governance and public services. Public transit? Yeah good fucking luck even in the cities people think should be fine. When you get to really small bumfuck nowhere you better hope you don't need medicine fast, Benny boy helped ensure that the hospitals in those places shut down by fighting against Medicare and Medicaid. The water? Contaminated. What are you getting for your taxes? A bad school, a censored library, asshole cops who are bored when you're coming home from the city, and not much else.

Alternatively high cost of living areas are starting to engage in urbanist policies which will reduce the cost of living. Sure you won't have a big yard in the city for cheap, but a reasonable sized apartment at a decent price or a reasonable priced house in the suburbs are possible.

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[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A new life awaits you in the off world colonies!

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Service Guarantees Citizenship*

*exclusions apply

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's wild that the "land of the free, home of the brave" let a bunch of incel basement dwelling grifter losers take over and tank the nation.

It was never free and we were never brave.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Ben's yarmulke game is on point like usual. Tiny, and the exact shade as his hair so that the anti-Semites in his target demographic won't see it, but he's still technically dressed the way his religion tells him to.

He could of course, choose not to court the types of people that turn out to be antisemitic, but you know, that would involve not making everything worse.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why not, and im spitballing here, make America great?

[–] dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I cut my teeth in left circles doing illegalist social work in a couple parts of northern california 15 or so years ago. Every experienced person who worked with unhoused populations knew theres a certain kind of people who get made victims at a shocking rate. Those really deranged out-there people usually with severe addictions who nobody would believe often had stories about police kidnapping them and holding them in foreclosures to torture them for a while, often with injuries to match. Everybody knew about the chicago pd making it formal with homan square and the various shit they get up to. Every department does it in their own way.

Earlier this year i had to spend some time in los angeles without much to do. I decided to get a feel for the streets. I noticed three in one long day of layover, wandering the city. One eye and two fingers, taken relatively clean and cauterized. Each on a different person. Three in one day, just wandering around. Just me. None of them commented. All the injuries looked within the past couple days, still black on the edges with little red fissures. The one I asked looked scared, tried to talk about anything else. I didnt even have to wonder where they came from.

Half of every municipal budget funds this. I don't know what percentage of the fed budget goes to funding the exploding of schools, international torture prisons, and the suppression of renewable energy along with other fossil fuel subsidies.

So what about that is fixable? The way they manage natural resources? Their vibrant healthy cultural practices? Their intellectual tradition? American cuisine? Their beautiful and unique architecture? You want to save america, what the fuck are you saving? Apple pie? The dutch do it better. Jazz? The best jazz musicians havent been from here since 1991; the soviet union still existed.

The land; that stuff that votes? I guess thats pretty cool. Got some good nature left, but clock's ticking on all that.

Fuck america. Any dozen randon people who aren't wholly owned could make something better.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Because DWS rigged the 2016 primaries

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 195 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I think he’s suggesting you die

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, because if you can’t afford to live, then you certainly can’t afford to move to another country.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Well... ok... I guess if we are going to die by the millions then we should... I dont know... die doing something... what ever that is...

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Remove the "here" from the end and you just have current republican policy

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Why is anyone giving this shitheel attention?

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If America has failed to provide paths to success for it's own citizen, it's because the very successful have destroyed those paths, not because Americans have failed. The end of this thinking is America is inhabited only by very rich people and slaves, regardless of whether they are citizens or not. This thinking will kick out the tired, the poor, the huddled American masses yearning to be free that it created. Shapiro and co are absolutely incapable of compassion or empathy except in their own self interest.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They fucked up that country so bad, him and his allies, I kinda agree with him (it disgusts me to say that). You don't want to go down with that sinking ship. Get the fuck out.

[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ben Shapiro has less self awareness than a sea cucumber

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Canada's full, fuck off please. Thank you.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

On average it isn't any cheaper to live in Canada, Canada does offer more social services at least.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Classic Canada, such jokers; anyay, is your couch a foldout?

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How can the same folks who can't afford to live afford to emigrate again?

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

The rich think it's easy to travel and that anyone can just do it.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Emigrate to, immigrate from.

edit: I'm still confused but probably wrong here.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I'm emigrating from the USA and I am immigrating to Iran.

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The only potentially generous way to interpret that statement is if “here” is like downtown in a major city or near a college campus or something.

But do you know who deserves the benefit of the doubt? Not this little fucker, not one bit.

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