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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 111 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Linux kernel czar?

I’m curious about this but I refuse to click the link because that just sounds so fucking stupid.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 75 points 2 months ago (13 children)

The headline is stupid but the article is interesting. Greg is saying that since last month for some unknown reason, AI bug reports have gotten good and useful, and something current Linux maintainers can handle. 

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but then article says that "good" ones still need reams of human work to make them acceptable.

Article is propaganda.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Greg says they're mostly small bug fixes and that the current maintainers can handle it, not sure where you're getting the "reams" bit from

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Says in the article that they arent good to go, needing code review, code cleanup, comment and documentation cleanup, etc

[–] inari@piefed.zip 29 points 2 months ago

Yeah I mean, the goal is not to replace code maintainers, only to assist them in their work. Greg in general seems optimistic about it:

"I did a really stupid prompt," he recounted. "I said, 'Give me this,' and it spit out 60: 'Here's 60 problems I found, and here's the fixes for them.' About one-third were wrong, but they still pointed out a relatively real problem, and two-thirds of the patches were right." Mind you, those working patches still needed human cleanup, better changelogs, and integration work, but they were far from useless. "The tools are good," he said. "We can't ignore this stuff. It's coming up, and it's getting better."

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can I read more about it somewhere else?

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[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 17 points 2 months ago

It's an affectation of The Register they like reporting real news with a sometimes quirky voice. It's also British so some of the language and humour doesn't quite work as well in other parts of the world.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

That's The Register's style. Their a little weird with their copy, but their reporting has been solid, in my experience.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago

We Brits use Czar as a colloquialism for "person in charge of...".

So the head of the water regulator might be referred to as the water Czar (and they deserve a similar fate).

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Your loss. The Register has been rock solid tech news (if a bit cheeky) for decades.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 90 points 2 months ago (8 children)

How did I end up on a timeline where Microsoft is talking about rolling back AI in its OS and practically acknowledging vibe coding caused problems... and Linux developers are talking about ramping up its usage?

Obviously Microsoft is still worse here, but what are these trajectories?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (24 children)

What I think you are also seeing is AI sucking at some things and doing better than humans in others.

AI is pretty great at adding unit tests to code, for example, where humans do a just-OK job. Or in writing code for a very direct well scoped small problem.

AI is just OK at understanding product nuance and choices during larger implementations, or getting end to end coding right for any complex use cases.

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Either a lot more tools got a lot better,

That's what it was. Even the free, open source models are vastly superior to the best of the best from just a year ago.

People got into their heads that AI is shit when it was shit and decided at that moment that it was going to be stuck in that state forever. They forget that AI is just software and software usually gets better over time. Especially open source software which is what all the big AI vendors are building their tools on top of.

We're still in the infancy of generative AI.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I tried one for the first time yesterday. It was mediocre at best. Certainly not production code. It would take just as much effort to refine it as it would to just write it in the first place.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you read AI critics, you will see people presenting solid financial evidence of the failure of AI companies to do what they promised. Remember Sam Altman promised AGI in 2025? I certainly do, and now so do you.

Do you have any concrete evidence that this financial flop will turn around before it runs out of money?

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Whether AI can reliably detect issues and generate working code is a whole different thing from CEO's delusions and hyperbole to game the market. Their financial success is also irrelevant, in fact it's better if the sub/token model fails and we are left with locally ran models.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Assume all the big AI firms die: Anthropic, OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, and Meta. Poof! They're gone!

Here would be my reaction: "So anyway... have you tried GLM-7? It's amazing! Also, there's a new workflow in ComfyUI I've been using that works great to generate..."

Generative AI is here to stay. You don't need a trillion dollars worth of data centers for progress to continue. That's just billionaires living in an AGI fantasy land.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't need a trillion dollars worth of data centers for progress to continue

Bullshit

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I'm sick and tired of AI fans making statements like

Generative AI is here to stay

without evidence.

Citation needed.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Um... Where would it go? I've got about 30 models on my machine right now and I download new ones to try out all the time.

Are you suggesting that they'd all just magically disappear one day‽

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

They should all be destroyed

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Traditional software was developed by humans as an artifact that, and to the degree that humans improved the software for some task, got better, but it was not guaranteed. Windows 11 is proof of that, and there are a laundry list of regressions and bugs introduced into software developed by humans. I acknowledge you say usually and especially for open source — I lukewarm agree with that statement but disagree that large LLMs or other generative models will follow this trend, and merely want to point out that software usually introduces bugs as it’s developed, which are hopefully fixed by people who can reason over the code.

Which brings us to AI models, and really they should just be called transformer models; they are statistical tensor product machines. They are not software in a traditional sense. They are trained to match their training input in a statistical sense. If the input data is corrupted, the model will actually get worse over time, not better. If the data is biased, it will get worse over time, not better. With the amount of slop generated on the web, it is extraordinarily hard to denoise and decide what’s good data and what’s bad data that shouldn’t be used for training. Which means the scaling we’ve seen with increased data will not necessarily hold. And there’s not a clear indication that scaling the model size, which is largely already impractical, is having some synergistic or emergent effect as hoped and hyped.

Also, we’re really not in the infancy of AI. Maybe the infancy of widespread hype for it, but the idea of using tensor products for statistical learning algorithms goes back at least as far as Smolensky, maybe before, and that was what, 1990?

We are in the infancy of I’d say quantum style compute, so we really don’t have much to draw on beyond theoretical models.

Generative LLM models have largely plateaued in my opinion.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

We're in the infancy of AI in the sense that widespread use, testing and properly-funded development of these technologies only began a few years ago when massively parallelized processing became affordable enough, even though the concepts are older. You could say we're in the infancy of practical AI, not theoretical.

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago

Video killed the radio czar?

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Sounds like time for a new czar

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

The Linux foundation, home to some of the best software engineers, and known not to pick up any trend just because it's new - let's say they still work with patches sent in a mailing list - reckon that a new tool is being very useful to them to the point that they're integrating it into their workflow.

People still criticise them because they should know better such tool is useless.

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