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[–] SethDove@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wut?

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago

Chuck Schumer is ecstatic about this war, but won't say so.

That's one tiny example.

[+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Vote third party! It influences the major parties, who will REFUSE to act until they lose votes over an issue. Of course your candidate won't be elected, that's not the goal.

Check out the history of the minimum wage; Socialists have been fighting for such since the 1910s, and they are still fighting.

Check out the history of marijuana legalization; bOtH pArTiEs were delighted to throw hundreds of thousands of people into prison. The greens and libertarians have fought for legalization since the 1970s.

Why don't you know this long history? Because it's almost never reported on.

Vote for who you support, and remember that FORTY PERCENT of all voters are now Independents, the major parties have only 30% each and they will continue to lose voters, and they will get angrier about it every year.

You are not alone.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

What did the person you’re replying g to say? It’s super sus that the mods removed it…

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Don't forget all the times both parties have felt the need copy from third party platforms out of fear of losing votes.

Green New Deal was taken from the Green party and softened up to not offend the corporations who fund the big parties.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body. If the forces of democracy take decisive, terroristic action against the reaction from the very beginning, the reactionary influence in the election will already have been destroyed.

Karl Marx, Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League London, March 1850

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Saving this for other discussion around the fediverse.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

We reached the same conclusion, I think it's obvious!

Meanwhile, many can't imagine voting without the "we won!!!" cookie, because they can't look at anything logically and they are ignorant of history.

If it wasn't for third parties, my state would STILL be locking thousands of people up. Over 50 years of fighting for legalization, none of it by major parties.

Most people think politics is simply voting, because they're lazy and easy to manipulate. Join your party (any party). Become a precinct committee officer or the equivalent, maybe even collect signatures for local initiatives? There's lots of work to do.

A few people make a big difference when they actually work for a common goal; after all, 95% choose to sit at home and hurl insults on the internet instead.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I fucking despise that this is right.

But the last statement is correct, that’s how the Republicans are doing the most damage. Your book bans, religion being crammed into schools, your laws that enable protesters to be driven over, anti-lgbtq laws…anything not federal is state and local. The republicans have weaseled their way into local positions of power that affect us every bit as directly. Push for the alternatives locally when you can.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

until a time at which a 3rd party has gained enough traction to actually win a national election

So you want us to do all the work so you can slide in and ride our coattails as if you always supported it?

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[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Americans need to realize that the reason MAGA took over the GOP is because they actually primaried their incumbents.

Vote Blue no matter who doesn't preclude keeping sitting democrats accountable by replacing them if once they inevitably get too cozy.

Everyone saying the democrats need to do this, or the democrats are part of the problem, need to shift the narrative towards replacing the Do Nothing Democrats, not expecting them to change.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

MAGA took over because the next stage of fascism is another hard shift to the right with liberals in lock step behind them to fill that void. You cant vote your way out of fascism

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 20 hours ago (26 children)

Vote blue no matter who after we purposely screw over the progressive candidate and put in a milque toast corporatist going after the former Tump supporter votes.

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[–] Terrapinjoe@lemmy.world 43 points 22 hours ago (18 children)

I'd point out the work of Lina Kahn under the Biden administration as head of the FTC was very progressive until it was dismantled by the current corrupt administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Khan

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[–] The_Almighty_Walrus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'd vote libertarian if the leadership wasn't absolute clown shoes

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I think that by nature you can’t really have a libertarian leader. Everyone is doing their own thing

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 36 points 22 hours ago (14 children)

Democrats need to go back to combating hypercapitalism, that portion of politics was the most popular in all of US history up until the late 1900s.

I can explain it like this: The most popular president in history is either George Washington, or Franklin D Roosevelt. Washington could have been king, but set it aside (undisputed badass). FDR was the only president in history to be elected for more than 2 terms (he was elected as president 4 times). FDR helped usher in those "magical" 95%+ tax rates on millionaires and implemented strict business and wealth restrictions. FDR'S "socialist" programs were insanely popular, even amongst non-democrats... no one could successfully run against him. We need someone like that.

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