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[–] Millennial_Falcon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They decided to start a war knowing their defensive tools were already critically low... Was the plan really all just hubris thinking Iran would just rollover in 24 hours? Even a child playing a FPS knows to reload their weapon before going on the attack.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago

Can they use the Jewish space lasers instead?

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago
[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't part of the Christian Nationalists crazy view about armagedon is that Israel gets blown up? I think that is part of the plan.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

"Critically low" is still too many

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago
[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 105 points 1 week ago

Oh no the consequences of my actions!

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are we supposed to feel sorry for them now?

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[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well that's too bad.

Anyways.. Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Bagels, for dinner? Isn't bagel like a thing you eat with your afternoon coffee, like a donut? I'm fairly ignorant about bagels lol

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

USians use bagels for sandwiches, idk why.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't let big bagel dictate when you eat them

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think I have never even seen a bagel. Big bagel is very inactive where I live.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Palestinians have amazing gastronomy. learn to cook some of their stuff. I make about 20kg of pittas and hummus every week for a mutual aid and costs me about 8$ per week. their food is amazing and cheap as fuck.

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, they didn't stop to check that before starting a war? That seems ill advised.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they count on their vasal states to give them more

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans are running low on jobs, food, money, health care, education, legal due process, civil rights, and now self respect. A lot of which is due to zionists effing everything up. I hope they have zero interceptors and have to pursue peace instead.

[–] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The amount of money that we have wasted at the behest of Israel is staggering. Trillions of dollars. Every single dollar stolen from our people, to advance the interests of an 'ally' who has literally attacked our soldiers.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not wasted, it's USAs forward military base, and an invaluable attraction for religious fanatics.

We knew very well that the countries defined by the super powers after WWII would always be in conflict. They were designed that way purposefully, tribes were split apart and mortal enemies were mixed together very carefully to boost conflict.

Like the post office, this government service is costly. BUT it's only costly for the taxpayers, you see, it's fantastic business for the military industrial complex and their investors. Guess who provides loans to those same businesses?

It is a mystery, back to work

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

the post office thing was bushes invention to slowly defund it, so people like DEJOY couldve bought it out.

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

So, basically attacking a country that has been preparing for this war for 20 years might turn out to bite them in the ass?

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's okay, Americans will buy more while their infrastructure crumbles.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As long as they don't have to give up anything basic for their people, like education, or Healthcare... wait...

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[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I plead for journalists to actually inform themselves about the subject before they write.... :o

Israel has other ways to defend against Iranian missiles during the war, including via fighter jets, but the interceptors are among the most effective defensive weapons against long-range fire. Its Iron Dome missile defense system is designed to repel more short-range fire.

They speak of Iron Dome (short range, for slow rockets from inside the atmosphere) and THAAD (high altitude, for fast missiles re-entering from space) interchangeably. And they even mention fighter aircraft, which cannot do jack in either case.

The currently relevant scenarios:

  • Hezbollah shoots unguided rockets at Israel -> Iron Dome intercepts maybe 15% of them (if the trajectory looks dangerous enough), and this costs about 10 times as much as the whole rocket salvo.

  • Iran shoots an IRBM at Israel -> the IRBM splits up in space into cluster munitions -> Israel can intercept the MIRV bus (cluster munition housing), but it's empty at the time of getting intercepted. Not much point. And doing it would cost at least 10 times as much as the incoming missile did.

A missile defense system, in this case, cannot do jack either. For this type of attack, defense would have a point if one was expecting to get nuked, becuause a nuclear-armed reentry vehicle cannot be made arbitrarily small, and the cost of leaving it un-intercepted would be extremely tragic.

In case of these projectiles, which are conventional and unguided in their final stage, one has to simply absorb the hits. This is the cost of war. And try to find the other guy's launchers, and try to prevent them from producing more.

And I'm not shedding any tears for Israel in this case. It definitely sucks to be bombed with cluster munitions, but they started this round of fighting, killed most people who they might have negotiated with, and aren't even new to using forbidden kinds of weapons (e.g. cluster munitions made of white phosphorus).

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[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

This seems like the thing you check before you attack a world power so you can bully your neighbors and steal their homes, but what do I know?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, sucks to start a war without the necessary means.

[–] GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago

It was a 3 day special operation. 

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

We've had quite a recent history of nations thinking they will have a quick, easy offensive and be done with it.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many interceptors does Gaza or Lebanon have left?

[–] ati@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

It's OK they can use children instead. Or something.

[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is also an aggressive, dishonest, genocidal ethnostate, supplied by the most overgrown military apparatus in human history.

Citizens in Israel and the U.S. have an obligation to change our governments and societies for the sake of the entire world. Until then, pearl-clutching over justified blowback deserves no sympathy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

plus they fund the both parties, and train LEO in the usa too.

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember, USA had to go in, because Israel was going to attack Iran nomatter what.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

And this will be used as nothing but an excuse to send Israel and arms manufacturers more money unfortunately.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 15 points 1 week ago

For humanity to progress we're going to need people to learn the lesson that militaristic expansion will end your civilization.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago
[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago
[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Gotta send them $1B I guess

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