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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (10 children)

We aren't socialists

You are socialists, Social Democracy is socialism, it's just a fucking word. America is socialist too, so is every country in the world that has post, police, fire, military - any services everyone needs that everyone pays for through taxation.

The difference in America is that the capital class has realized that the money generated through taxation looks very nice when it is lining their pockets instead - so they spend untold amounts of money on bribing politicians and generating propaganda designed to convince us that certain things, primarily education and healthcare, are not the same kinds of things as post, police, fire and military.

They have been very successful in convincing a majority of Americans that socializing them would lead to the loss of their money, their freedom and even their lives - even as they take the very same money, freedom and lives for themselves. This is because on the whole Americans are, for a variety of reasons also perpetuated by the capital class, deeply stupid.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

and were also subsidizing these same people who are not paying taxes, thats the kicker. but conservatives are taught to accept that being not taxed is benificial for them

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am so used to people complaining about their own country that I mistakenly thought that the first guy was Danish. And then, the second guy's comment made no sense at all. I was like, "health insurance? co-pays? How does any of that apply to Denmark?"

I had to reread the first post several times before I could overturn my impression that he was Danish.

[–] JaymesRS@piefed.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think the first user is supposed to be a jelly-filled doughnut, and the second a danish.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

a jelly-filled doughnut,

Oh, like a berliner?

[–] JaymesRS@piefed.world 4 points 4 days ago
[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

If we could only train everyone to loudly hiss whenever they hear GDP or Tax Rate used as a metric to gauge a country's value, a lot of people would be a lot better off.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Nailed it with the last sentence

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Best answer ever

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Can someone explain what "+ retirement savings" means here? I'm trying to figure out what the comment means by that, like they're implying saving money for retirement isn't done in Europe?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 9 points 4 days ago

Most people still save up for retirement in Denmark, but you also get paid a monthly retirement wage by the government. That way, even if you've been unable to work for an extended period of your life, or some other reason, you won't be straight up abandoned by the government. It's however not enough to live comfortably on, so anyone who is member of a union at a company that has made an agreement with a union, which is by far most, will have some money put aside for a retirement account. I have a pretty good contract, and pay 2% of my wage, while the company pays 11%. This is something my union negotiated a long time ago. When I retire I get a payout from that account, while also getting the government retirement wage.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

Laughs in European

Glorious social democracy of Denmark which rose its retirement age to literal fucking 70 years old. What a fucking joke.

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