Proton has become a problem for privacy
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2025
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I don't trust proton either
The company could flip any time but for now their products are pretty good as a google alternative. I use the calendar, mail, cloud, contacts and vpn app and have zero complaints. Plus they couldn't access any of my data if they wanted to.
they couldn’t access any of my data if they wanted to.
I am not so sure that's true
The thing is, it's not true about any E2E encryption where all parts of the codebase are controlled by the company.
It could be as simple as updating their website to send your password to them in plain text while logging in, now the encryption is useless as they would have your password.
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i trust them more than google. they've been a little sketchy lately (bc of the ai stuff, not the ceos political stuff) but at least only one entity has my data this way. I'd rather self-host but i can't rn.
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In guessing the left is Proton but those icons are about as bad as googles.
They might have actually somehow managed to come up with worse logos than Google uses. I assume the top one is an email app, the bottom left is a file manager, and bottom centre is a password manager? But I'm less than certain about those, and everything else is a complete mystery.
From top left to bottom right, horizontal first:
- Password Manager
- Calendar
- VPN
- Drive
- Authenticator
- Mascot for their LLM
The only ones that are a bit ambiguous are the Password Manager and the VPN logos imo
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Napkins
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Square turned sideways
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Square not turned sideways
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Triangle
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Folder
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Half-eaten donut hanging on a doorknob
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Cat
How was I supposed to infer the meaning of those?
- an envelope but like, without the top
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- calendars are kind of this shape and this has 31, a day of the month in it
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- folder, it's their drive app, were you keep files and folders. This one's actually not that bad.
- the keyhole is used in damn near every password manager, and when it's not a key it's a shield of some sort.
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(This whole reply is mostly /s)
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Its amazing, in an era where our phones have higher res than monitors did 20 years ago, icons have less detail.
Like show a damn calendar for the calendar icon. Hell, the ANSI emoji would be better. 📆
Like show a damn calendar for the calendar icon. Hell, the ANSI emoji would be better. 📆
I have this icon pack and it is fantastic. It actually shows that day's date. Unfortunately doesn't do the same for clock.
No matter who someone is, don't give them all of your personal property.
I use Protonmail from Proton. That's it.
Same. And once i stop procrastinating i want to set up my own email server as well.
Have fun, it's hell and the pain doesn't stop until you give up.
Most accurate comment I ever read
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Oooh naughty naughty. If you're into some light cutting I have tips.
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Proton lol. You're such a joker
Imagine paying anything for proton services.
Both aren't really private. Both is a for-profit company claiming it to be private.
For-profit company and private are not mutually exclusive though. Mullvad VPN for example is ~~as much~~ a for-profit company ~~as~~ unlike proton which is nonprofit, and arguably also one of the most private VPN services available.
Proton is a non-profit.
No. Proton is a for profit company whose largest shareholder is a non profit foundation. As is written right in your linked post. The foundation is not the company.
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Design brief: Make them look like the google suite but purple. The harder it is to work out what the app does from the logo, the better.
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For a moment I wasn't sure which one of the two would be better. After careful consideration I decided both are noobs, because real pros only use emacs rigged to behave as the whole OS on an airgapped 15 year old thinkpad for anything that needs a computer, but most likely keep that in a vault too and only get it when absolutely necessary.
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Amateurs, I bet neither of them even knows about Qubes OS