The only thing I gather from these posts.
The right: We prefer a two party system.
The left: a vote for a third option weakens us in the battle against the right.
Centrists: I just want a third option that isn't democrats or republicans...
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2025
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Well, if youre a "centrist" like me, then you used that designation to try to get out of talking about politics with ass holes on both sides. And also i hate getting "prejudged" -everyone does- because i might like or dislike a certain politician. I am a centrist, truly, but I dont need to prove that to any of you. And this is what I mean when I say "both sides are the same" I mean you assholes harras, insult, degrade, tease, berate, and nearly threaten about how your side is "the good side" and the "otherside" equals the destruction of America. Yeah, well, both sides do that annoying shit. You want to tell me "there's no such thing as a centrist anymore" and that i am actually on the _________ side. Well f you, you dont get to tell me what side im on.
Maybe you just feel that since im not with you, that I must be against you? If that overly simple reasoning is where you are at, I dont think we should be friends anyway.
I dont want to be identified as red or blue, dem or repub. Honestly, im pretty conflict avoidant in general, and politics gets to be such nasty topic and can ruin family and friends. I see it happen more in the past few years than ever. Its really sad! And you know it too!
Can everyone please just put a sock in it for at least the rest of December? Can we all look for common ground and the things that we can share? Dont look at family through red or blue tinted glasses, but through the lens of love. Let's put our pride aside for a while and produce good times and love this holiday season.
Done :).
Social democrats are what centrists actually are and they're generally on board.
"Centrists" tho
Isn't it just left & right ?
"Centrists" are those that oppose authoritarianism in all forms. The far left and and far right make rationalizations about why their preferred flavour of authoritarianism is good (it just gets a bad rap!) while pretending to vehemently oppose the other side's flavour of authoritarianism.
But in the end, those who rationalize in favour of any kind of authoritarianism could easily be manipulated into supporting any other kind of authoritarianism. There's a reason the Nazis called themselves the Nationalist Socialist party, just a small amount branding can get a good number "leftists" to support fascism. Because few people actually think in ideological terms, they just go along with the group and repeat whatever ideological bullshit they've heard to conform with the group. It's easier to turn a socialist into a fascist (and vice versa) since it's mostly just about branding.
Socialists and Fascists love the concept of political spectrum they can put themselves on opposite ends of, but that's all an artificial construct to allow for fear of the other to rationalize the need for a strongman to protect them from the other side that supposedly has completely different values than them. But the "far right" and "far left" have both been conned into being willing to give up their rights in fear of the other. Fascism is a convenient rationalization for communism and communism is a convenient rationalization for fascism. These "ideologies" has a symbiotic relationship with each other.
Those who fall for these grifts believe the verbal diarrhea of demagogues that use a lot of words and say little other than give a vague feeling of "trust me, give me power, I will make you stronger / more equal". The stupid see someone using a lot of words and don't notice there isn't any real explanation of how the demagogue will deliver on their vague promises. They just need to hate the same people their audience hates and use a lot of words, and the stupid will eat whatever bullshit is thrown at them.
Internet podcasting has allowed people to have an endless selection of small time demagogues to choose from. The flavour of authoritarianism the stupid will fall prey to is entirely dependent on which content an algorithm selects for them. And that is based on content they may consumed before puberty. These grifters need to get them while they're young, someone with more life experience will be more likely to say "yeah sure that's a lot of fancy words, but how does any of that help me right now?" which they don't have an answer for.
Right now we live in a dictatorship of the wealthy. The capitalists control productive forces, decide how the majority of us spend our time, and lobby governments in their own interests. On the other hand, the workers, the people that labored to create everything we need, are given a fraction of the value of what they produce in the form of wages. In other words, every person that survives on their wages is exploited by necessity. We are institutionally coerced to sell our labor (i.e., make money for the capitalist) or fall into abject destitution.
Centrists obviously don't see the dictatorship. We live in a time where the rule of the wealthy is as normal as the divine right of kings once was. Accordingly, centrists may be sensible enough to see the following trends as problems, but they tend to think of them as entirely disconnected:
- Stagnating wages (despite rising productivity)
- The wealth gap
- Corporate offshoring
- Periodic recessions
- Perpetual aggressive wars
- Millions around the globe living in abject poverty
- Literal slavery abroad to produce cheaper consumer goods
- Literal slavery domestically in prisons
- Skyrocketing cost of living (food, shelter, gas, education, healthcare, childcare, etc)
- Functional monopolies (despite anti-monopoly laws)
- Politicians in the pockets of billionaires
- Climate change (despite decades of warning from scientists)
Marxist theory can explain all of these problems, and in many cases predicted them before they happened. But if the billionaires can convince people like you that a better economic system is synonymous with authoritarianism, and that continuing capitalist wealth extraction is the reasonable "center" position, then they can prevent the workers from banding together against the ruling class.
WTF happened to centrism, instead of measured response to right and left it has just turned into the place where cowards hide
Makes more sense when you realize a lot of so called "enlightened centrists" are just Republicans who don't want to be lumped in with them but love their hateful policies.
It didn't used to be that way, not entirely sure what happened to change that
The current political climate is galvanizing and honestly I don't see it as a problem. We cannot survive as a society much less species with how things are now. Some people are only concerned with how they're viewed, so they lie about what they believe in order to look not terrible. Truthfully, nuance is dead, and playing both sides means the one that takes away will always win.
Because both make money.