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I just read about people struggling with Next loud in the OpenDesk thread and wanted to share this in case someone is interested in contributing to this project.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The installation workflow begs for supply-chain exploits. Given this and its oob install, it probably breaks iso27002 as well.

I'll wait. NextCloud and OwnCloud both have 27002-compliant installs (the latter needs some review), so I need to stick with those.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

These might be apples and oranges, but how does NextCloud compare to Seafile?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Bitching about nextcloud seems to be some people's hobby around here.

[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not bitching if it's true. Nextcloud has really poor performance alone, it tries to do to many things at once and none of it ends up being good. It was amazing for it's time and it's idea but it simply doesn't scale, not technically, not with time. They need to redo the architecture and probably move to something better performing than PHP. I never heard anyone in any environment even considering PHP as an option in 2025.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's fine if you use the AIO or do some specific things on baremetal like Postgres and Redis. I've used in virtually every format over the last dozen years, and you eventually learn what works.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

To be honnest, Nextcloud is kinda a piece of shit software. Every major version break something, an error in an extension can make it crash entirely without any failsafe preventing it. I already lost the database twice (in what... 5 major versions), and the only reason I still use it is because I'm too lazy to use anything not in the TrueNAS apps repository.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Looks really nice and seems like it should be a great foundation for future development. Personally I can't lose Nextcloud until there are sufficiently featureful and reliable clients for Linux, Windows, Android that synchronize a local copy and help manage the inevitable file deconfliction (Nextcloud Desktop only barely qualifies at this, but it does technically qualify and that represents the minimum viable product for me). I'm not sure a WebDav client alone is enough to satisfy this criteria, but I am not going to pretend I am actually familiar with any WebDav clients so maybe they already exist.

[–] thisisnotausername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Checkout opencloud, owncloud clients are compatible with it

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are they? I did not know that! This changes things.

[–] thisisnotausername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Im using the android client no problem. Not sure about the the desktop ones, if you want I cant do some basic testing and report back, just let me know which clients

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 10 hours ago

That is super kind of you!

I'm not sure which clients. I haven't installed opencloud, because I didn't see any clients for it on a cursory look. I tried nextcloud, but it kept failing after updates, so now I just use cron jobs to automate manual backup scripts I wrote to an external HDD. If you do test any desktop OC clients and find any "good enough" ones, I'll start with it : ) and if you don't get to test any, know that I still truly appreciate your offer!

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've tried several WebDav clients, and I've found that the great majority will work great. Their performance will depend on the server. For example, Nextcloud was slow. CopyParty was blazing fast, as if it was a local folder.

You might want to checkout CopyParty too, it's UX/UI sucks, but you don't need to see it, since you can use it with almost any client on any platform via any protocol.

[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

Have you found any interesting clients or just "filezilla but for webdav" style ones?

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago

I was also wondering if it will sync.

Mostly happy with syncthing, but open to trying new solutions.