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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I believe in God and His judgement because I just do. There's something instead of nothing, and nothing takes considerably less effort than something to exist (no need to argue this, nor any way to do so, hehe), and for me the idea of a Creator makes entire sense and completes the puzzle. I believe in His judgement probably because of that inner morality and desire for truth and justice everyone has but many deny and avoid. Finally, I do because it makes me happy, and helps me tame the animal and just be overall a person I'm proud of being, one that walks his talk and is at peace with himself and others.

Of course, none of this just came to me, or at least not as well defined and convincingly spoken, this is all thanks to the words of the prophets and the word of God as encapsulated in the Qur'an. Jesus always made sense to me even as an atheist kid (I just thought he was a pretty clever and kindhearted dude, not, you know, "God made flesh" or whatever people believe in), Solomon should make sense to any adult with enough working neurons, Muhammad's message is basically just a reiteration and perfection of it all, a little bow that ties all of monotheism up. πŸ‘

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Do not want to find out if your username checks out.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you expand (or link to something that expands) on the Solomon thing?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Please read Ecclesiastes, written by Solomon, (son of David, king of Jerusalem), one of the wisest men in recorded history and the OG panicking existentialist!

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ecclesiastes+1&version=NIV

It's a short read, I promise. πŸ‘

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I rejected christianity sometime as an early teen.

I don't remember my full reasoning but I did not like the idea of getting up early Sunday morning to do the church stuff.

It never got replaced by anything.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I find it funny that there was a time where atheists on the internet were just called edge lords (or still, idk) for not believing in god and voicing that opinion. I remember being like 8 years old and thinking: wow that is stupid, why would anyone believe that. That was pre internet, i didn't have to be influenced by other edge lords and i didn't read any books about it. But somehow it's in certain parts of the world weirder to come to that conclusion than believing in the all mighty super being.

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

During that time period it wasn't so much being an atheist that made someone an edge lord, but in how they went about communicating that to others.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Same. My mother actually sent me to Sunday school and I even did 1st grade at a Catholic School. I too remembering how silly it all seemed even at that age. Luckily the school closed down after that first year or she would have kept sending me there. I always wonder if the indoctrination would have taken if I'd have to keep going year after year.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because I can at least see spaghetti without DMT.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah sorry, there's nothing.

But we should behave towards each other as we'd like to be treated. Otherwise it doesn't work.

Now, there's this unsolved issue of people harming all of us...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cutting out philosophical arguments, prophecies and "no way this is a coincidence" types of stuff (which, yeah, there's a lot of those), it's a combination of

We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?

-Quran 41:53

They have taken their rabbis and monks as lords besides Allah and also the Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), though they were commanded to worship only One God. There is no god except Him. His Glory is far above any partners they ascribe (to Him).

-9:31

And let not those who [greedily] withhold what Allah has given them of His bounty ever think that it is better for them. Rather, it is worse for them. Their necks will be encircled by what they withheld on the Day of Resurrection. And to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth. And Allah, with what you do, is [fully] Acquainted.

-3:180

Of course there's a lot more where that came from, but the point is: We here have a religious text that encourages independent thought and pondering of the world and itself, promises harsh punishment for hoarding wealth and unequivocally condemns priestly institutions. Does that sound like an attempt to gain wealth or power? Exactly. Also this

He [Muhammad] looked displeased and turned (his attention) away, because a blind man came to him (interrupting his discourse). What would make you realise? Perhaps he would purify himself (by your attention),

-80:1-3

is not how a cult leader talks about himself. It's admittedly hard to parse from the translation, but this is a somewhat harsh admonition of Muhammad here. The segment continues until verse 10 if anyone wants continue reading, but the gist of it is "you're ignoring the man seeking guidance and trying to convince those who reject it? That is not how that works. Yes, even if it's a random blind guy."

Lovely post! The Qur'an also says something like "and We spared you from committing injustice, had We not intervened you would've easily faltered" regarding the prophet Muhammad (sorry, can't remember the exact ayat). πŸ‘

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You sacrifice for me, I sustain you. I sacrifice for you, you sustain me.

I believe this because nature is hungry, but expected to sustain life.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't. Not Buddhist anymore

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buddhism looked appealing to me until I actually looked into it (I come from a Western culture)

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cosmology, mainly. To someone who's barely familiar with Buddhism, it may seem like it's all Buddha's wisdom with some Samsara magic sprinkled on top of it. Really though, it's every bit as bonkers and reflective of the ancient perceptions of the world as any other way of mystical thought.

As for teachings, I honestly didn't go to deep into that, but I visited a local temple and the way a monk told about them made me feel I visited some sort of lnternet life coach with some mystical stuff on top.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What’s the term for not knowing for sure if there’s a god or not and not giving a fuck about it either way?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

When I was a little kid, I took what I was told at face value and didn't question it.

Magical thinking is normal for little kids. By about age 7 you're supposed to have grown out of that shit though - like it's normal to still enjoy the concept of magic, but there comes a point when you should have a pretty intuitive understanding that it's fiction.

For some reason we give religion a pass.

Some old dude in a dress raving about how ghosts built the pyramids is instantly recognized as crazy; but some old dude raving about how the chief master ghost shat out our entire universe in a week is... somehow worthy of respect?

So, my religion is no religion: I believe what can be tested and verified.

The most concise test to disprove the notion of God is one of simple logic: the Epicurean paradox, which recognizes the mythology of God being composed of three core pillars: that he is 100% good (complete absence of evil), 100% powerful (his will is our reality), and 100% omniscient (he knows everything about everything)... but despite those three pillars, it takes no time at all to recognize evil behavior all around us, and for evil to be able to exist in our reality, one of those pillars must always fall.

He either doesn't know evil is happening in his universe, is powerless to stop it, or is okay with it.

Every single time a religious person attempts to address the Epicurean paradox, the just shuffle the pillars to fill in the gap left open by the missing third (feel free to take that as a challenge if you think you've got the answer).

Anyway, it became clear that at the very least, my religion wasn't being honest about the nature of its own god, and that realization was the final nail in the coffin for me.

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think for some people the scale of God simply doesn't compute, which is why old man with big beard image persists. Look at the size of our galaxy, and the size of the universe as a whole. If any being was the creator of such a vast and complex universe as ours, that being would be to us like we are to a "Hello world" script.

The analogy is flawed, but that is what we are saying if we believe in a being capable of creating our universe, defining its laws and bending them to create us. We could not truly begin to comprehend such a being, and largely we are left to our own. However, if you believe, then this being does care about us in some way. And it has shown us this through inspiring humans to share its path for our improvement.

That is the reason I believe in the teachings of the Christ. The path of loving your enemies, of caring for everyone as one would your own family, forgiveness, that is the path to a better world, revealed to us through a man and his story. I am unable to fully live up to such ideals, but like Data says, the struggle yields its own rewards. Those who take such ideas to heart are worthy in the eyes of the creator, because if all people were such, there would be little suffering in our world. We have the means to reduce our suffering, but we choose not to. God could, remove it for us, but then we will not become the free and good beings we are meant to be.

You don't need God to have such ideals as the Christ demonstrated, but I find such ideas so much better than any of the alternatives, that I suspect they have divine origin. And even if they don't, if I follow them, then I will contribute to making the world better regardless. God could take away my struggle and suffering, but that would leave me still flawed and unable to improve, and so it would be for all humanity as well.

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because the book said itself was real

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