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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

“Powerful PC gaming in an open ecosystem”

Valve just kicked the teeth of all console makers with this announcement. If only they manage to ship and distribute globally they would single-handedly threat taking over the entire gaming industry (hardware side) in a single generation. Of course, it's well to wait for reviews, hands on demonstrations and the reality that comes out of this. But I bet there's more than one MS an Sony executive who were apprehensive of seeing this day arrive.

Also: the fact they doubled down on the Steam Machine name. It's like a huge FU to all OEM manufacturers who laughed at them in 2017.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't think they even can manufacture at a scale anywhere close to the big three. Like with the Steam Deck, it'll be a great product for a niche audience, but the numbers will be limited in comparison. No chance of taking over the industry.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It definitely seems to me like they're trying a similar strategy to Microsoft's Surface line or Google's Pixel line where the main goal isn't really to outcompete directly, but rather to influence the market by a) proving that the platform is viable and b) providing a blueprint/setting expectations for third-party manufacturers considering getting in on it. I swear I remember valve saying they were open to licensing steam os to third party devices (granted, I dunno if anyone's taken them up on it), and they obviously want as many people on steam as they can pull off.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

There are currently 2 third party handhelds that are officially supported by SteamOS, so at least 2 manufacterers have taken them up on it so far.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also the controllers are hall effect by the sounds of it. Which will be a jab at Nintendo no doubt.

[–] ernest314@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

technically TMR, but yeah

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the main hangup is going to be: how easy and simple is this thing for the average person?

The Steam Deck is, any way you slice it, a better value than the Switch or Switch 2. The Steam Deck has sold roughly 6 million units in 3 years. The Nintendo Switch 2 has sold close to 11 million units in about 5 months.

I hope you're right and that Valve really shakes up the whole industry, but I'm not going to start expecting that until I see it.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

I think Switch has a different market (albeit a bigger one)than the Deck.

There is definitely market overlap with Steam Deck but I feel the Deck offers things that the Switch doesn't. In a similar vein, I think Steam Machine provides a kind of value that extends just beyond the console market. There are people who would not consider getting a console but would definitely consider getting a powerful and compact Mini PC with good gaming capabilities. Therein lies the greatest value of their offering.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is so sick. I wish the console was more powerful and didnt rely on fsr for 4k preformance. I'd love to get my hands on that vr headset.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I bet you can turn it off and just do 1080p gaming. I think steam analysis one said that only about 10% of people have a 4k display. So that's probably why they haven't over spec the system.

In about 4 years they'll probably have a more powerful version as well.

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Not sure what the statistics are for televisions though, which is what this is focusing on (home console experience)

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean, it will do 4K in old games just fine.

FSR(4) is less noticable at higher res, anyway.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FSR4 only runs on RDNA 4. The Steam Machine has RDNA 3, so FSR3 is the limit

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

…Oh. I see, I misread the generation.

Yeah, that’s a huge caveat, one that would get me to reconsider the whole box, as FSR4 is way better than 3. I wonder if there’s a chance for AMD (or Valve) to backport it?

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The linux community is already working on it

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Cool. AFAIK FSR4 uses instructions RDNA3 doesn't even have, so I'd be interested to see if they can squeeze decent performance out of it.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Eh, it’s running a whopping 300W power supply. It also seems to be pretty damn tiny.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm so glad the steam controller is back.

I was an early adopter, I got my first steam link and steam controller in November 2015

I went through 17 steam controllers.

Seventeen.

Because they were built like absolute fucking shit, and my ear actually got attuned to the sound of the shoulder spring breaking. Crunch.

The first one I bought was totally DOA, the replacement was DOA with a broken button membrane, the replacement for that DOA with a malfunctioning back paddle. The fourth one, and first functional one I got lasted two months before the shoulder broke. There were ones I got new out of the box and the shoulder broke within an hour.

So I'm happy as fuck that it came back, but I'm so hesitant. I choose to believe that they have corrected the shitty build problem, but I guess I'll find out!

[–] thurstylark@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm also a steam controller lover, and I feel you on the build quality point, but just remember that this new one is going to be built post-steam-deck. The lessons from the steam controller funnel into the steam deck, and the lessons from the steam deck will funnel into the new steam controller.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Oh hell yeah, I knew all along that the steam link, the steam controller, that was a research project

And I have confidence that the new one will resolve a lot of the build issues. Cautiously optimistic

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

If it's built as well as the deck, it should be great

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[–] cyrano@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

This looks really solid.

[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Im so curious about the new VR tech, isn't this what the VR nerds have been talking about, like, forever? I guess we'll just have to see how well implemented it is.

But goddamn, what an absolute bombshell to drop 3 pieces of hardware at once. Lets hope they can deliver.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Valve crushed it out of the park. Great hardware and really well presented; beautiful and succinct.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AMD must feel good about this, given their (apparent) alarmingly small desktop GPU marketshare.

...They really just need OEMs to ship the things, and now they got a great one.


I'd be neat if Steam offered an Intel Arc variant too. The B series is massively underrated.

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