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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 66 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Here in Sweden we don't really have company/location specific unions, ours are sector based with national reach.

It has always confused me to hear about small unions like this.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

That's because other countries are doing it wrong. Small unions will not hold any power, they're completely pointless.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The idea is you get small unions joining. Randomly starting a big one is difficult

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

This.

For example, it's much easier to get 20 game studios' employees to form individual unions, slowly building up more and more support within their tight-knit communities, than it is to have employees from all 20 game studios simultaneously come together, agree they want to start a union, and draw way more attention and hostility otherwise.

Obviously this isn't a hard and fast rule 100% of the time, but the alternative is just it being too hard to coordinate across every game studio at once.

And of course, later on, they can always just merge together or form partnerships/agreements as needed. It's getting started that's the hard part, and it's even more difficult when you try to start at a massive scale.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Denmark has FH, which stands for "fagbevægelse hovedorganisation", which is essentially a kind of alliance of unions. The only one not part of this alliance is Krifa and their Faglig Hus (Krifa = kristelig fag).

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am shocked that a Christian organisation wouldn't play ball with the others. To be fair when I say "other countries" I'm obviously painting with a very broad brush. I'm sure that there are countries out there with good strong national unions, and I'd be surprised if that's not fairly common here in the Nordics.

We love our folkrörelser here in Sweden, like we even have a tenants union, that each year, among other things, negotiate rent increases with the landlords and their unions. They'll also offer legal counsel and even representation if you're a member, which if you're a tenant in Sweden you fucking should be.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that is my feeling as well.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Same in Denmark, but here we also have overenskomster for specific work places, or kinds of work.

For example, I work for Just Eat. This puts me with 3F Transport Group. They have the transportoverenskomst, which is the groundwork for overenskomster of specific types of jobs, like bus driver, truck driver, or in my case, food delivery. So, based on the transportoverenskomst, we have the madudbringningsoverenskomst.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Still not the most ruthless act of union busting in the history of the UK tho

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the reminder that the Royal Hospital Chelsea has a gender-neutral restroom

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Very spacious, from what I've heard

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

she said she "did her duty for queen in country"

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ha ha ha, duty

  • Phil Sebben, probably
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Margrete Thatcher naked on a cold beach! Margrete Thatcher naked on a cold beach! Margrete Thatcher naked on a cold beach! Margrete Thatcher naked on a cold beach!

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ty. I am now unable to ever get an erection.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And our "left leaning" governing party which was built ion unions will do nothing

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s a matter for the courts, not the government of the day - I would think employment law on unlawful dismissal is pretty clear cut.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I was having a dig. Nothing more. Although I still expect nothing be done.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Labour is dead. The UK left should get behind Zack Polanski's green party. They're surging in the polls and have taken over both Labour and the Tories in some.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hope they get somewhere. The sister party is the one I'd vote with but they tend not to stand where I live

[–] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

GTA 6 was something I was already planning to avoid. I'm sure it will be a technological achievement, but the fact that this game took close to a decade and a half to come out, I moved on from the idea of a new GTA game long ago.

Rockstar was happy to milk GTA 5 for that whole time rather than making new games the fans wanted. Sure RDR2 was released, but were fans really only wanting one game in a decade plus? Of course not. Why make a new game when you can make money from micro transactions in your current one. Basically acting like GTA landlords and expecting continued money while offering no real value to an old game. They even put a casino in GTA online, in case you needed a clearer idea of what their priorities are now.

GTA 6 will probably have a great story mode, but the GTA online garbage is coming too, guaranteed. It would not surprise me if the online components even find a way into the single player story. Not to mention the size this game will be on your system. I bet 200 gb - 300 gb and the probably higher price tag.

Now Rockstar is union busting. This is on top of all the toxic work environment flak they got for over working their employees in the RDR2 development.

Fuck you Rockstar, I don't need a new game from you.

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm betting that one's gonna be a poor story mode.

This is the first gta after gtao became the cash cow. All bets are they're going to lean into online with single player being an afterthought.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why make a new game when you can make money from micro transactions in your current one.

You are being facetious, but the question demands an answer: there IS no good reason for investors. It's very likely Rockstart genuinely would not have made as much money developing new properties as they did exploiting their established ones. And if they did, it would have been a gamble vs a virtual sure thing.

The demands of capital are not compatible with art. These companies don't serve our needs, they exploit our desires. Don't buy art from corporations, buy it from artists.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll wait for a PC release and pirate it

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

AAA slop will never have a home on my drives again, even free. they get zero word of mouth positivity or money from me again

[–] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It just so happened that every member of the unionization chat (across multiple locations?) was engaged in gross misconduct.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

The misconduct was union activity, the mouth piece didn’t even deny it.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

"Gross misconduct" is union busting corporate speak for "workers trying to make a stand for their rights".

[–] Modest_Toxic@feddit.uk 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no bad PR! Time to release a new GTA 6 trailer to make everyone forget about this!

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They could record their own farts and Gamers will gladly eat it up. GTA 6 is too big to fail.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like Borderlands 4 was too big to fail, only to become laughing stock that only sold...

Hold on, how the fuck did Borderlands 4 sell more than 2.5 million copies?! OK, I take your point.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC borderlands 3 was kind of a flop, and i didn't even know borderlands 4 was a thing till like, a week before release date

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Borderlands 3: The initial sales of the game were the highest of the Borderlands series: more than five million copies were sold in five days, and to date more than 22 million copies sold

Hardly a flop, numbers wise, and bl4 isnt trailing so far behind that

Gamers don't care, and I hate it

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Won't be playing GTA6 until I can get it for free.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yar matey! 'Tis be a good life indeed!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

How the mighty have fallen...