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I've seen a depressing trend of Democratic politicians embracing anti trans talking points and compromising gender affirming care for young people. This is extremely concerning as states and the federal government are undermining access to care now more than ever. Democrats standing by trans people has far more dire consequences now than ever, yet we're being treated as politically disposable by people who used to campaign on lgbtq issues like Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg.

I can't say I'm surprised. Liberal papers like the New York Times has been uncritically promoting unscientific transphobia for years that claims alternatives exist to gender affirming care. My guess is that people see a person transitioning as an unfortunate thing, desperately wishing there was another way. They ignore the fact that gender affirming care is both the best treatment for dysphoria, and one of the most successful treatments for any mental condition ever discovered.

To put it simply, making gender affirming care harder to obtain for kids will kill many of them. Kids being kept from care by their parents already drives people to suicide, and a slimy politician preventing supportive parents from helping their kids will do the same. Every time I see people claim these guys are our best shot at beating fascism, I die inside. I have no doubt that they'll eventually axe care for all adults like everyone who was originally "worried about fairness in sports" is currently pushing for. The only way they won't is if we make it a costly issue for them.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Right wing politicians are really good at getting elected by doing and saying whatever they need to. Once they’re in office, as Trump demonstrated, all bets are off.

So far, the left’s strategy has been two-fold.

  1. Promoting unpopular mandates instead of just getting elected and re-writing the law.
  2. Promoting popular policies, getting elected, and then squabbling among themselves ineffectually.
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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Personally, I don't see a difference between combating fascism, and gender rights, gender affirming care, and recognizing people as the gender that they feel most comfortable as. I also don't see a difference between combating fascism and LGBTQIA+ rights in general.

Fascists would have all of those rights stripped away from people. So bring pro LGBTQIA+ and being against fascism, is essentially the same thing in my mind.

The thing about it is, you can be against fascism, but not pro LGBTQIA+, but it would be, in my mind, impossible to be pro LGBTQIA+ and not be anti fascist.

So anyone who wants to deny LGBTQIA+, gender affirming care, or the recognition of people's gender, but who is self-proclaiming to be against fascism, is either under some confused notion of what fascism would entail, trying to find some "middle ground" which doesn't really exist, or they're still fascist, but only if their way of life is what's being promoted under fascism, and we can it something other than fascism.

All of those people can suck my dick.

LGBTQIA+ rights are human rights.

EDIT: I want to add that I'm not LGBTQIA+. I just believe that anyone who is, should have the same rights to be just as happy, or as miserable, as everyone who isn't. I am an ally. I am a humanist.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

the old guard is trying to avoid another zohran, bernie, aoc, or the minnesota mayor, hence pedalling a republican lite is the best they can do.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't defeating fascism and standing for trans rights the same thing?

Same with eliminating religion?

These organisations aren't good for human rights. They aren't good for anything or anyone.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Ok, look, as long we PINKY PROMISE that we're going to stop at the VERY FIRST one of the "first they came for the..." marginalized groups, you gotta let us murderize JUST THEM and then bada bing, bada boom, fascism is cooked!

[–] piefood@feddit.online 4 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Not only Democratic politicians, I see it here in the Fediverse all the time. People seem to think that the Democrats winning is more important than human rights.

I just don't understood that kind of dogmatic thinking.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You realize the left needs to win for us to have human rights? Your critique makes literally zero sense.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the party that isn't able to win, and also doesn't support universal human rights?

Maybe they would have more luck with the former, if they tried the latter.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

If the left needs to win, then we can't vote for most democrats.

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Winning an election is step one. Policies that benefit everyone (except maybe the very top) is next. Then win the next election and pull the country left. Then rinse and repeat. We didn't get here overnight.

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[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

liberals gonna lib but what does the acceptance, or rejection, of science have anything to do with it? Plenty of fascists have had no problem embracing science as a method of political expediency and plenty of leftists have rejected scientific advance as a measure of political progress.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

"Let's meet in the middle and only oppress people 50%"

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I am very much a supporter of pragmatism and strategic politics towards building unity on the left, even if it means sacrificing some issues in favor of more pressing ones. I hate purity testing and assume most people who engage in it are acting in bad faith. But I completely agree with this. A coalition without respect for basic human rights is just a nonstarter.

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Who said that??

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