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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish these titles would be more "politicians beholden to lobbyists want you invade your privacy" instead of sounding like it's inevitable

[–] anothernobody@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's inevitable because all political parties want it. Because everyone wants to use it against their opponents.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All of the evil things happening are only inevitable so long as this manufactured resignation/consent engine continues to function.

[–] anothernobody@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's no machine, it's human nature. Everybody wants to get rid of their opponents. Everybody thinks "If I can get my hands on this first...".

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is absolutely a machine to manufacture public sentiment. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

[–] anothernobody@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Technically yes but what is it based on? Human nature. The vast majority has no problem with mass surveillance, just like the vast majority has no problem with climate change. Either people don't care or they think it will benefit them in some way or they adapt. Humans are very good at adapting. Only a tiny minority is unable to and they can't influence politics.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what the point is. We should just give up? We should not complain about the consent manufacturing machine? Do you really have nothing better to do than actively argue we should just resign to be chess pieces for the powerful?

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Bifurcated internet.

Gonna be surface web with all the corpo bullshit and everyone else who isn't fine with being a product in a walled garden.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

Seriously this.

Walled garden Bullshit is tier 1

Clearnet that is just fun old school geocities vibes, tier 2

Portal with TLS to the underworld, tier 3

Darkweb tier 4

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My state left its driver's license database open for years for anyone to go in with just a name, address and email to obtain the picture. There are easily accessible websites that let you search any state for a useable drivers license. I can't imagine it would be too difficult to use some generator to make an ID. How else will all the botnets and AstroTurf orgs out there survive?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

On an unrelated note how many centuries do most earth men live and what would be a good average for one to be if one where making a birth certificate or such.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The corpos' owners' own "need" for shell-corporations, astro-turfing, bot-follower-accounts and such will torpedo this. The internet is going to suck for anyone that spends too much effort on playing by the rules, but that's already true.

Oh, and don't get me started on the inevitable impacts on advertisers' bottom-lines and corpo-providers' exposure to liability.

Basically, those who have the power who might toy with thinking or saying they want this, don't really, and those who are most certain they want this have neither the power nor understanding to make it happen.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For national security purposes we need a copy of your likeness and driver's license connected to your IP address to know every single web page you have considered whacking off to. A masturbatorbase. You know, to protect the kids.

Naturally we will target other undesirable activity as well, we cannot let citizens exercise their first amendment rights about US foreign policy with impunity now can we? Or to criticize our glorious leadership and great companies. /s