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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine

Political lobby group

To promote non-animal methods in research and education (opposition to animal testing) and a plant-based diet for disease prevention

A political action group is hardly an objective scientific third party providing dispassionate evaluation of science.

We could rewrite the article title as "Vegan organization tells MAHA to not eat animals"

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That doesn’t “discredit “what they have to say automatically. This comment would fall under the appeal to bias logical fallacy.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Agreed, it absolutely doesn't discredit what they say.

But the group name and headline are written in such a way that it sounds like a unbiased independent research organization made a conclusion based on rigorous science, so its worthwhile to be clear about the biases of the headline.

PS I'm only downvoting you here because you downvoted me, fair is fair.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's important to bring up the Center for Organizational Research and Education:

The organization defends the alcohol, meat, and tobacco industries and has been critical of organizations including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the Humane Society of the United States, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Organizational_Research_and_Education

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, was the article headline about this CORE lobby group? I must have missed that in the article.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That’s a group funded by a billionaire to slander orgs he disagrees with.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 3 months ago

Ok, that would make a good independent post to talk about the politics in science policy!

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

this comment doesn't commit any fallacy. it is just pointing out dishonesty

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Sounds like they will be fired and replaced by a nut job shortly

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"NO NO NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

BUT ALL VEGETABLES ARE ULTRA-PROCESSED!!!

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean few people are actually against vegetables lmao

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Carnivore here, we aren't against vegetables as a idea, you do you, but we don't see them as necessary, and some people can't tolerate them (allergies, gluten, lectins, etc)

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

we don’t see them as necessary

as though it were just a matter of preference

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 months ago

Well, yes, the carnivore position is there is no essential nutrition missing from eating a animal tip to tail.

Eating veggies is a preference, at least biologically

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yup, they’re "full of toxins" according to carnivore grifters.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 months ago

Yup, they’re “full of toxins” according to carnivore grifters.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food

[–] xep@discuss.online -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody says that all vegetables are ultraprocessed, that would be a silly statement to make. However, UPFs are mostly made with plant material.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 0 points 3 months ago

People love to claim that vegans only eat processed foods 🤪

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Ok now do guns