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I'm not sure how long this will last, but I've still not forgiven Netflix for forcing the ending to be rushed. The last season should have been at least two seasons.

I just recently started Don Quixote and have only just made it into part 2, but he doesn't really strike me as a hero. Maybe in his own head he thinks so. He's certainly the protagonist, but from what i've read so far, he's been rather antagonistic towards the people he interacts with.

They said anti-hero.

Really? Holden damn close to the platonic ideal of a reluctant hero, with a strong moral compass.

He wobbles a bit later with all the PTSD, but generally always tries to do the right thing the best way he can.

Naomi and Bobbi too, Naomi did bad stuff in her back story, but she's much surer of herself and her sense of right and wrong due to that. Bobbi possibly a very mild anti-hero as she can lean a little blood knight, but not quite anti-hero in my view.

Drummer and Fred Johnson are much more morally grey, and start out as more antagonists than they end up being.

Avasarala is similar, but she's also a magnificent foul mouthed mother. She can get anti-hero status for sure.

Amos I think is more of a villain protagonist (dueteragonist?) than anti-hero.

Miller is anti-hero in the Shinji Ikari type.

Can you be a hero for not doing anything?

Isn’t this just a hero?

Saint Luigi 🙏

The one who hates immigrants, gays, and liberals? Might want to take a little closer look at your favorite character.

To be fair, after the swallowing he sometimes puke. It's not a total sin, but just a eating disorder.

Mal is pretty darn heroic. They glossed over the space civil war so as far as we know the browncoats weren't fighting to preserve slavery. Mal's a pretty excellent moral guide for what these sovcit nerds wish they were, and enough of a moral actor to be a role model. Evenhanded and loving with subordinates (even Jayne), unrelenting in moral crusade against the government, and a preference for negotiation (even with Constance and Nishka!) but enough of a badass to get out of it (or having a loving found family who can help). He sticks his neck out to help people in need (like the Brothel), and goes along with a reversal even if it means all of their previous efforts were for nothing (my favorite episode, Ariel). A lot of the confusion is just how acidic and brooding Mal starts off, and his arc (such as we see it) is even just 'becomes less curmudgeonly and embraces this heroic side of himself)."

I think a real example in this space is Spike Spiegle from fellow late 2000s bounty hunter broke as dirt space opera, Cowboy Bebop. Spike is much more about money, revenge, and a good fight, and is very open about his nihlism and readiness to get himself killed, but somehow ends up helping a few people along the way.

A Firefly fan in the wild!!!

It's also established that's he's an accelerationist. He's intentionally baiting the Empire to crackdown more brutally on dissent in an effort to forment rebellion among the common people of the galaxy. He fears that if he does not do this, there will be a day when the Empires grip is too tight to escape.

"It will burn... Very brightly"

In the end, he was right. The Death Star vindicates his methods. Without Luthen laying the groundwork for the Rebel Alliance, the Galaxy would have been a boiling frog and the Death Star would have led to its brutal oppression for generations.