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Earlier this year, as President Donald Trump was beginning to reshape the American government, Michael, an emergency room doctor who was born, raised, and trained in the United States, packed up his family and got out.

Michael now works in a small-town hospital in Canada. KFF Health News and NPR granted him anonymity because of fears he might face reprisal from the Trump administration if he returns to the U.S. He said he feels some guilt that he did not stay to resist the Trump agenda but is assured in his decision to leave. Too much of America has simply grown too comfortable with violence and cruelty, he said.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How long do we think it'll take for the brain drain to kick into its full economic consequences? 5, 10 years?

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Just long enough for them to blame the Democrats and then get elected again.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not a problem. The US can just black bag the brains back. Easy.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

What was the term back during Bush's war on peace?

"Extraordinary Rendition"

No. That was shipping "criminals" to torture camps and prisons in a third country so the US wouldn't be blamed for all the torture and illegal imprisonment.

That sounds familiar. Like recently familiar.

Still. Wonder if there's a name for kidnapping escaped scientists who fled the country and bringing them back. I bet there's a German word. There's always a German word. Might be 47 letters and entirely unpronounceable. But it probably exists.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago

And the German Nazis got it from US slavers, so search for a US term. Fugitive Slave Act.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Extraordinary Repatriation, maybe? I'm going with that for now, anyway.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Extraordinary Reverse Uno Rendition coming up

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I believe the proper HR term for the proposed course of action is "requisition of resources".

For things like doctors its obviously instant so it will already show up in the end of 2025 statistics.

[–] BoycottPro@lemm.ee 45 points 3 days ago

The irony is when we get over this we'll likely end up replacing our American-born doctors with immigrants to replace all the people lost.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 17 points 3 days ago

We have a friend who's a pediatric emergency physician in a world-class US city. The day Trump was elected, she scrubbed her social media of anything critical, and started quietly scouting properties she can move her family to in friendlier countries. Right now her income is supporting like 3 US households, if she pulls out, it's like 3 families, 3 mortgages, all of that money goes with her.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m only still here because my partner is a refugee who can’t leave without losing her protected status.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

Non-white, though not Black. Still dangerous in the current regime.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We will take all the doctors (and nurses) that want to leave that third world shithole. I'll meet you at the border and give you a lift to wherever you want to go.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I could drive in the snow, and deal with the snow, and the rest of the winter wonderland I'm not at all accustomed to, I would have been in Canada a long time ago.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It's not so bad here, sometimes summer even falls on a weekend every few years.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Hope rural hospitals close so we have less fascists moving forward.

Literally looking for master's programs abroad for the same reason