As someone who sometimes needs a quick and dirty stock image for my work, webp is the bane of my existence. The work computers won't let me visit sites or install programs/extensions to convert the image, and my document processing programs have no fucking clue what to do with the format. There is an option in Microsoft edge to edit image, and it will dump the result as a .png which is the only workaround I've found.
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If you're on Windows you can just open picture in MSPaint, and save it as PNG.
Edit: You might need the WebP Extension though.
I run Firefox portable with the extension "Save webp as PNG or JPEG". It has a button to copy directly to clipboard in the format of your choice.
So much this. I've completely forgotten about this issue since I've installed that extension.
I'm working on a project which generates images in multiples sizes, and also converts to WEBP and AVIF.
The difference in file size is significant. It might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people.
Here's an example (the filename is the width):
Also, using the <picture></picture>
element, if the users' browsers don't support (or block) AVIF/WEBP, the original format is used. No harm in using them.
(I know this is a meme post, but some people are taking it seriously)
I've mentioned this topic in regards to animated images, but don't see as big a reason to push for static formats due to the overall relatively limited benefits other than wider gamut and marginally smaller file size (percentage wise they are significant, but 2KB vs 200KB is paltry on even a terrible connection in the 2000s).
What I really wish is that we could get more browsers, sites, and apps to universally support more modern formats to replace the overly bloated terribly performing and never correctly pronounced animated formats like GIF with something else like AVIF, webm, webp (this was a roughly ~60MB GIF, and becomes a 1MB WEBP with better performance), or even something like APNG...
Besides wider gamut, and better performance, the sizes are actually significant on all but the fastest connections and save sites on both storage and bandwidth at significant scale compared to the mere KB of change that a static modern asset has.
This WEBP is only 800KB but only shows up on some server instances since not every Lemmy host supports embedding them :
It's pronounced GIF
Literally just today solved a problem of delivering analytics plots over our internal chat system. The file size limit is 28Kb and I was just getting ready to say screw it, can't be done.
Lo and behold our chat system that doesn't support svg does support webp. Even visually complicated charts come in just below the size limit with webp.
Why 28Kb though?
Honestly no idea. It's funny though. The API allows us to either read it directly from our lakehouse with the 28Kb limit, or allows us to encode it in a json object. It actually recommends using the json method if we want to send larger files... but then complains it's too large if it's over 28Kb 🤷♂️
I think it was probably originally only intended to allow attaching icons.
But why webp over jxl
We already have the solution
Webp is supported in browsers. Jxl is not, unfortunately.
(Well, I have the Firefox extension for it, but most people can't see them...)
People should still use it tho, with the fallback of webp or avif
Just change the file extension to *.png. Works every time.
surprised_pikachu.webp.png
Wait till you find out what's inside when you change Office files from .***x to .zip
.jxl is the better image format anyway
I feel like jxl is supported even less than webp though
webp is completely supported by browsers I think now.
Websites still get weird about it.
JXL is supported by Safari and ummmmm mobile Safari.
iPhone 16 supports shooting in JPEG-XL and I expect that will be huge for hardware/processing adoption.
webp is not fully supported by safari and webview on iOS; they cannot export images as image/webp using the toDataUrl or toBlob from a canvas element
Frak Safari.
How many people that are clinging to JPEG are also hating anti-AI people for being "Luddites"?
Since we're here and someone may find it useful, I use this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dont-accept-webp/
i have a "save webp as" firefox extension that is good as well... sorry no link Im too busy
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Yeah, man, gotta use mozjpeg.
The funniest thing is that even some of Google's own products don't accept Webp, like Google Voice.
Stop trying to make .webp happen. It’s not going to happen.
Maybe we should try to make it happen harder
They use it on their server side to save data, they don't give a rip if we don't use it. If they wanted us to use it, they'd have cancelled it already.
Just don't let Google kill JPEG XL.
Lemmy uses webp for profile pics.
"It works just like regular image formats, but it's fun."
No webp for me, just because Google is pushig it and that is suspect.
Lol it's like 10 years old at this point. Not sure they're pushing it anymore. I think files that are half the size sell themselves