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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The DNC is the primary reason we live under an authoritarian manbaby, Hogg isn't wrong

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We can't stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

There needs to be an age and income bracket limit for people in government service, these rich geriatric fucks are going to get us all killed.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We can’t stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

Holy shit, yes! I'd take it a step further and say "we can't stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to anyone pushing us to be an actual opposition". Ten democrats joined the republicans in voting to censure Al Green for having the absolute audacity to yell at the guy shredding the constitution instead of sitting quietly until leaving quietly while wearing a #resist shirt.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

We can’t stand up to Trump, but we can stand up to this kid telling us to do our jobs.

Elder liberals telling younger voters/activists to STFU and get in line, then blaming them when turnout sags and conservative democrats lose purple seats, is the tragedy of the modern era.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think the primary reason is all of the fascists, but sure neoliberalism and inevitable decline etc

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I guess the C in DNC stands for Corporation. The corporation doesn't like when underlings call them out on their bullshit

[–] mriormro@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

It mostly stands for 'Cunts' at this point cause that's what most of them are.

Fucking moderates, man. We're slowly walking towards some dumb, horrifying shit.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

I admire Hogg for trying to change things from the inside, as it were, but the DNC is definitely complicit in our current slide into authoritarianism. Until they wake up and embrace the progressive movement championed by Bernie and AOC, I have little hope for the mainstream democratic party

[–] polyamorypagan69@lemm.ee 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

The DNC is only another wing of the fascist corporatocracy /Kleptocracy /plutocracy their only function is to protect the capitalis that keeps them in power.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

2016 primaries were awful. DNC super delegates kept Sanders out, showing the worst aspects of super delegates. Establishment GOP couldn't keep Trump out, showing the worst aspects of a lack of super delegates.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (6 children)

That single act doomed us. Bernie would have smoked trump so hard his kids would have changed their name

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

Nah, that's probably the only thing I applaud the RNC for. It was very clear that Trump was not their choice, but when their voters spoke, the RNC shrugged and said "alright, let's party." Where the DNC endlessly schemes and plots and weasels its way into running the footgun. Democrat voters groan "no, not the footgun again! What the fuck are you doing?!" And the DNC says "look, you don't understand, it's the footgun's turn, they've earned it. We just need to compromise and blow our legs off one last time. Now is just not the right time to not blow our legs off. Americans just won't vote for not blowing our legs off. And, I mean, what are they going to do? Vote for the guy with legs? Lol, lmao. Now hand me that gun."

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They argued the same thing in the NY 2016 primary case. You know... the one where 120,000 people in King's County just randomly got bumped off voter rolls a few weeks before the primaries with no recourse for registration.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These roll Purges occurred all over the country. I got purged during the 2016 primary in California but there was still plenty of time to reenroll despite the lack of warning.

I volunteered to work at a poll and countless numbers of voters were forced to vote with provisional ballots. Which meant they would be thrown away because they weren't registered to vote (but they had been at that location for years and were registered to vote)

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

more or less the same donors as the gop, they arnt different, the only reason some of them are EVEN dems is that they are not right wing enough to be palatable to republican voters. they also make backdoor deals often, it was pretty obvious when mitch was still in control of the senate.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 48 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Proving him right, by doing more to stop him from running than they're doing to stop the fascist takeover

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 159 points 6 days ago (35 children)

These shit bags will never learn

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[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This whole situation is best summed up by this. If they were putting this much effort into fighting for the actual working class issues they would have won the previous election... Make of that what you will.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Democrats aren't, and never were, a working class party

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 days ago

Finally! The DNC is finally taking action against the...oh never mind.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

[Indeed, Hogg’s PAC, Leaders We Deserve, recently announced an initiative to fund young primary challengers in Democratic races.]

Hey that is pretty cool. We need lots more people like Hogg and AOC and Sanders.

[–] 7empest@beehaw.org 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Trump is on a mission to crash our economy, disappear people without due process, and participate in flagrant public corruption — and voters still trust him more than Democrats,” Hogg said in his statement. “That is a massive indictment of our party.”

Thats a damning statement

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s damned accurate.

I trust Trump to be trump. I don’t trust the DNC to calculate a tip

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[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

First, they came for all the motherfucking politicans. Then they came for the lobbyists, then the CEOs and billionaires and the propagandists and the corrupt judges. And if they haven't been beheaded yet, they had peace happily ever after!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (23 children)

You cannot reform the party. Either it changes you, or they have you removed.

Yes, the Democrats occupy and monopolize the space for a leftist party. That does not mean the Democrats are leftist, nor ever will be.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 29 points 5 days ago

Jenkins, did you hear that young master Hogg expects us to actually help the Plebs?! Egads, didn't anyone explain to him that that's a bit? Jenkins, I need you to get in the private jet and pay Schumer a visit-- no, Jenkins, thirty minutes is much too far to drive-- and also pass along this stock tip. We need to catch this Hogg before the Plebs start getting ideas, like expecting us to work, ha ha.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago (6 children)

DNC Moves to Oust David Hogg After He Says Party Isn’t Standing Up to Trump

This title feels like a bit of a gaslight considering hes being ousted for saying his party doesn't represent their voters anymore. While not standing up to trump is part of it, its a smaller issue than the truth that the dems stopped giving a shit about their voters long ago.

God it must be so easy to be a republican, just blame everything on immigrants and do whatever you want to them, simultaneously not pissing off your rich owners, and making your dipshit voting base happy. Its a win-win scenario where only the country loses.

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would not consider myself a far leftie, more of a left of center kind of guy, but I have found Hogg’s vivacity refreshing. The old guard should squirm, considering they shat the bed last go-round, and may even have lost us the country.

There are plenty of Bernie Trumpers out there, that feel this country has ignored them. And they’re right in the kinds of nooks and crannies where we need to win.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 45 points 6 days ago (79 children)

Don’t ever ask for progressives’ vote again. We’re done voting blue no matter who.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago (71 children)

So where, pray tell, do the progressive votes go?

Primary them sure. Try and snag it back. But you won't turn your next vote red. You know that. And they know that. And I sure as fuck won't do it either. The DNC can rot. But...

You can and should blame the two party system sure. But if you don't primary and win. Well. We've seen that before again and again.

I'm a progressive that will vote blue again. Reluctantly. Emphatically so. But I will.

The posturing of principals means nothing in our political reality. And it pisses me off. But reality doesn't care about your feelings.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Primary them sure.

Democratic primaries are kabuki. Trying to oust Hogg is just the latest demonstration.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I really like the idea of a tea party style takeover. That seems much more actionable and realistic.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No such thing.

The tea party was just billionaires covered in AstroTurf. They bought the Republican party. It's asymmetrical warfare, because the left doesn't have billionaires that profit from our policy goals.

Not to be a doomer, I do think Democrats can be pulled left (kicking and screaming) but I'm not sure how though.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

This sums up my feelings about the fate of the Democratic party.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

A lot of the democratic establishment used to have a close relationship with Trump and took his money often over the years. Then Biden even helped him get re-elected by all the lies and nonsense last year.

Things are not as they seem and the plan is clearly not for the establishment Democrats to stand up to Trump, they want him doing exactly what he's doing.

This is because behind the scenes, it really is a uniparty, and the only thing any of them really care about is money.

Political parties and disagreements are for the lower classes.

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[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Sure are a lot of no-avatar .world accounts in here advocating against uniting against Trump and the GOP 🤔

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Right? I didn't do that profile shit on Reddit, I ain't doing it here either.

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