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I have finished watching Star Trek Next Generation and Deep Space 9 following a friend's recommendation. I enjoyed both shows and started watching the other one, Star Trek Voyager.

So far, I'm not finding it as enjoyable as the other two. I want to try to see it through the eyes of someone who enjoys the show, maybe it will also help me understand why it feels different somehow.

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[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Part of it is that Voyager has the unenviable role of being one of TNG's two successor shows. The other was DS9, and everything looks bad sitting next to DS9. Part of why DS9 was able to do the wild things that it did was because the writing team had minimal supervision and were allowed to go buckwild- paramount were keeping a closer eye on first TNG, and then Voyager. Because of that, Voyager plays it safe and worships the status quo even when the fiction is begging to go in another direction, and the whole series has this feeling of having been written by committee. This even frustrated the writers, one of whom left the show out of frustration to go write the Battlestar Galactica reboot, which is essentially gritty, serialized Voyager

that said, I watched the whole thing and largely enjoyed it. you kind of have to meet it where it is, and accept that major plot details get glossed over and everyone takes turns holding the idiot ball. for me, the characters are what salvages the underwhelming plot. being a smaller ship, younger characters like Kim and Paris are able to be movers and shakers, giving the show a coming-of-age quality not found again until LDS and Progidy. Janeway is great when she's not holding the idiot ball, it was really awesome seeing a captain who came up through science instead of command. When the blue or gold shirts give most captains a solution to a problem, they're glad the problem it solved, but Janeway would get excited about the solution itself, sometimes even finishing Belana's sentences.

Neelix had never so much as heard of starfleet, and had none of the training or skills even a crewman would need, but his good nature and see-a-need, fill-a-need ethos arguably makes him the most starfleet person on the boat. Kes is similar, with the added twist of dedicating herself to a voyage she won't live to see the end of.

VOY spoilersPeople say it was good that she left because there wasn't much to do with her character, but to me that's nonsense. Not being able to see her come to terms with her mortality and how that intersects with her psychic powers was easily the show's biggest missed opportunity.

the doctor is an interesting inversion of the good idea/meh execution pattern because his concept is unremarkable- essentially a rehash of Data learning to be human, just accidentally and with sarcasm- but the execution was incredible. later on when 7of9 joins the cast, she displaces him as The Data but he remains a main character and takes on a mentorship role which allows him to develop even further

all in all, it's a show full of then-new and brilliant ideas that regularly fumbles the execution. and that isn't for everyone, especially with the plethora of other great trek out there. but if you watch it and are able to forgive the not great scenario writing you might enjoy it nonetheless

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

interesting that voy had so much meddling from the executives, Nutrek has probably even more plus kurtzman agenda, thats why the new shows are sucky. i always htough BSG was too similar to voyager.

and SGU eventually took from both series.

[–] kfoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think Voyager had the meddling/executive oversight it did because it was used as a carrier to literally (not figuratively) launch a new television network. Voyager premiered as the first show on the brand new “UPN” tv network, a network which would later become today’s “The CW”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPN

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