However, it got off to a less than stellar start. The three moderate candidates in the race – Jill Stein, Cornel West and Chase Oliver – were barred from participating.

Instead, the contest pitted the two frontrunners: former President Donald Trump, the candidate of the far-white Republican Party, widely thought to be the political wing of white-Christianist militias, and Kamala Harris, the current vice president, who led a palace coup two months ago that forced the ageing, unpopular incumbent, President Joe Biden, to abandon his quest for re-election.

When did Aljazeera get this 🔥

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children)

The debate is literally an agreement between Donald trump and kamala Harris. There is no neutral debate commission involved. This doesn't really make sense.

Those candidates are free to have their own debate if they think they can convince someone to put them on TV.

Edit: Also is Jill Stein a "moderate"?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (22 children)

Edit: Also is Jill Stein a “moderate”?

Closer than the two nazis we get to pick from

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

God, I despise the watering down of the term "nazi".

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Trump's mass deportation and 'poisoning the blood of our nation' rhetoric is literally Hitlerian. Nazi as a term is not being watered down here.

I wouldn't consider Harris a Nazi though, just another Neo liberal. Although the Democrats shift on the border, conceding to the republican narrative, and the current stance on Israel/Palestine is still concerning

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My issue wasn't with calling Trump a Nazi (I find that assessment correct), but calling them both Nazis. Yes, the rightward shift is concerning, but the false equivalence put up here understates Trump's danger and heavily overstates Harris's.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you accidentally double posted.

Yeah that's fair, I agree. I think it's important to highlight the rachet effect when it comes to Democrats, especially on harmful policies like immigration and foreign policy, but it's also important to recognize the difference between them and the Republicans. The only avenue for progressive change is with the Democratic Party, but only with enough voters demanding better representation

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 1 points 2 years ago

re. Double posting, I think that was Jerboa being fucky when I posted my reply

heckin internet making me look silly

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Am I watering down the word nazi or are you watering down the crime of genocide?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

*** Rwanda partially checks in to offer a viewpoint on non-nazi genocide ***

*** Bosnian serbs would like you to forget their history over a few rough years ***

*** A few Armenians have something to say ***

The list of genocides is long, and 1940s were just one entry in a litany of cases.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The fuck is your point?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you have a better term to describe people supporting the systematic murder and ethnic cleansing of people trapped in a concentration camp?

Nazi is the most accurate term to describe Harris and Trump.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nazism has to come from the Auschwitz region of Germany or else it's just sparkling fascism

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get the joke but Auschwitz was in Poland. They were careful to keep all the concentration camps out of Germany.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Auschwitz was in Poland. They were careful to keep all the concentration camps out of Germany

The six extermination camps where 2.7 million of their victims were murdered were all in Poland, but the Nazis did have hundreds (or dozens, if you count all of the subcamps near a larger one as being a single camp) of concentration camps in Germany.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Fair point.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

branding is important, yo!

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