this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2025
648 points (98.8% liked)

memes

18670 readers
2720 users here now

Community rules

1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour

2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month

4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins

5. No Spam/Ads/AI SlopNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live. We also consider AI slop to be spam in this community and is subject to removal.

A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment

Sister communities

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I'd argue that an instance of life is it's continued existence. An interruption where it gets fully destroyed means that instance of a life has ended. Once reconstructed, a perfect, indistinguishable copy is created, but it is not the same life.

If you were to create the copy without destroying the original, would you now be in two places at the same time? Or are there two you's in two different points in space?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (13 children)

What about when you sleep, or get anesthesia? Continued existence of what exactly?

What if you kill and freeze a person, and revive them later?

What if you do the same but piece by piece and reassemble them?

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Those questions are easily answered, though.

This question obviously revolves around the philosophical idea of the ship of Theseus.

In the scenarios you listed, it is definitively the same ship (albeit with different pieces/cells that have replaced parts over time), whereas in the original scenario it is akin to making an identical, second ship.

There is a clear distinction between those things. If there weren't, the ship of theseus couldn't exist as a thought exercise

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What if they're in a coma for long enough that all of their cells are replaced? It's all dancing around the question: assuming there is no soul, what is the self?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

It's all dancing around humans not wanting to admit they are just a bunch of stuff that could be hypothetically rearranged, destroyed, recreated, cloned, etc.

Any such device being wormhole based is far more realistic than considering the insane requirements of instantaneous subatomic recreation, transmission of that information and destruction of the original

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I don't think any of those questions and in writing this comment I have decided that I solved the ship of theseus and decided that I deny the premise outright.

So anyway I'm gonna get some sleep and continue manic posting tomorrow.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (10 replies)