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GNU Linux-libre 6.18 Neuters More Functionality Due To Blobs With Intel Xe, NVIDIA Nova
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That may not be their goal but that is what they are saying. The position of the FSF is that a device whose closed source firmware cannot be upgraded is superior to one that can be upgraded but for which only closed firmware exists. So, if you are buying proprietary hardware (and you are in 2025), you should prefer the closed hardware which is not programmable.
It is a stance that only makes sense if you care more about the simplicity of your message than the implications of your position.
They are directly creating demand for less open systems that provide less freedom. It is dumb.
The solution is simply to have a sane definition of “free software” that does not include firmware.
There should be a Free Hardware Foundation that calls for hardware to be free. They can demand that everything be completely open which most of us would support and may even be possible now that we have RISC-V. Their list of “approved” hardware could be essentially blank. That said they could participate in creating some. Of course, it would likely be worse at first. You know, like Free Software was bootstrapped.
The FHF could object to all non-free hardware while still acknowledging that programmability is a positive step that at least has the potential to be more open. The FHF could sponsor or endorse free firmware efforts.
That clarity would allow the rest of us, even the FSF fundamentalists, to make sane choices.
Where they say that? They say if ROM firmware, no freedom possible. So outside scope of FSF.
You have a hardware device that is fully proprietary and closed. The firmware cannot be programmed or upgraded.
The FSF is fine with this hardware. Stop me if you disagree.
Version two of the hardware above is released. The firmware can now be upgraded. The initial firmware available is closed source. It is actually the exact same firmware used in version one but it now ships as a binary blob. Since the hardware is programable, open source firmware could be written but none yet exists.
The FSF says that this hardware must be avoided. The binary blob cannot be handled or distributed. Version one of the hardware is still fine and is preferred. Again, stop me if I am wrong. Note, the firmware is the exact same.
Ok, now answer “where they say that?” for yourself.
If hardware is out of the scope of the FSF (totally reasonable) then firmware should also be outside of the scope of the FSF.
Because their stance today is that hardware that is more open is worse. Hardware can be as proprietary and closed as you like as long as you do not make it programmable. If you do, the FSF may have a problem. Insanity.
Free software is better than non-free software. The FSF and I agree.
Open firmware is better than closed firmware. This is my view but the FSF only has an opinion when the firmware is upgradable (as you state above). Silly.
Programmable hardware is always better than non-programmable hardware. That is my view, but the FSF disagrees when no open firmware exists. Dumb.
Obviously, version two is better than version one in the technical sense, because it has more capabilities. But it is also obvious that version one does not deny its users any abilities that it affords instead to the vendor- neither the user nor the vendor can modify the firmware inside the device, so the vendor doesn't exercise more control over the sold device than the user does. Obviously, the vendor designed the device, but that's as far as their influence over it extends.
Version two, on the other hand, it programmable. This make it technically superior, but since the firmware is proprietary, the user is denied the right to view source code and modify the firmware, a right which the vendor continues to hold after the device is sold to the customer. In other words, the vendor has a right over the device under copyright law that the customer does not.
That's not an ideal situation, and it's the one the FSF is trying to prevent. You have every right to buy hardware with firmware encumbered by such restrictions, I have myself. But it's not dumb to care about one day freeing yourself of such restrictions, and that won't happen if no one is pushing back on the practice.
Surely you don't think all free software was technically superior to all proprietary software at the start of the movement, and surely you don't think it even is now. But if you still think it's a good thing that we have the free software ecosystem, then perhaps you sometimes care about things other than pure technical superiority. If so, you ought to be able to understand the FSF's position here.