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Following the "voluntary" scanning added in the latest EU Council Chat Control vote, what is a realistic option for a family/friends chat? Is self hosting your own Matrix/DeltaChat server the only opt (piefed.zip)

submitted 1 week ago by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/privacy@programming.dev

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https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/reality-check-eu-council-chat-control-vote-is-not-a-retreat-but-a-green-light-for-indiscriminate-mass-surveillance-and-the-end-of-right-to-communicate-anonymously/

By "shared" servers I mean hosters like https://tchncs.de/en/ who offer a bunch of services (they do a great job at it by the way) including Matrix and Lemmy.

I'm thinking of moving my close family to a Matrix chat over there, but I guess long term they might have to implement the ChatControl scanning.

This whole thing is just stupid.

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[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

I don't quite get what you're asking. You can use any chat app that works, just don't expect privacy with current tech unless you're a pair of trustworthy cryptography experts using secure devices at both ends. Near future tech should make it more possible for regular everyday tech users to achieve what an expert could do today

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that's nonsense.

You can use any chat app that works, just don't expect privacy

that was the fucking point, that they are making it illegal to change this for the better

unless you're a pair of trustworthy cryptography experts using secure devices at both ends. Near future tech should make it more possible for regular everyday tech users to achieve what an expert could do today

you don't have to be an expert for it today, but in the near future easy private tech will be illegal so that you will have to be an expert on it.

[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

You're overestimating how secure devices are today & I believe underestimating the work devs are doing to fix that regardless of what lawheckers say

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