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There was a proof of concept app ages ago that demonstrated how for any seemingly important permission like location, there were ways to get at the very least "good enough" data for it through other sources on/in the phone, even when you only gave it the bare minimum permissions (nothing that prompted for permissions or would show up in the play store).
From most wide to most precise, you have triangulation by cell towers, Wi-fi SSIDs have been pretty thoroughly mapped to location ages ago, and when your phone sees multiple SSIDs at once it can triangulate location even better based on the signal strength of each. GPS is the most accurate, but location can be trimmed down to well within the walls of a building, if not down to the room without it.
Fucking horrible.
Here it is on F-Droid. Doesn't have the location features I thought it did though. That must have been something else.
Android apps can't see ssids without asking for permissions (GPS or sensors I think?)
I believe wifi/network info is classed as a "normal" permission that the system gives automatically, so the user isn't asked unless they manually change this.
That has to be deliberate. Networking straight up does not require showing apps the said, or even type of connection. A boolean metered/unmetered or connection number (nwtwork interface 0 1 2 3 etc) is the most that could possibly be required.