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Just make an employment contract part of your counteroffer
Contracts only protect you from the honorable, or those you can enforce upon.
If they're honorable, you don't need a contract. If you can enforce upon them, its only utility is to gaslight their peers.
They can set their own penalties, but the most common penalty for the business would be paying the full term of agreed employment (so probably 1-2 years) even if they want to fire you early. The most common one for the employee would be repaying any signing bonus and/or all or part of the salary for the full term of the contract.
You can enforce upon any legal and valid contract, but that’s obviously in a perfect world- many people can’t make the choice to take time off of whatever other job they might have found and pay an attorney/stay organized enough to find someone pro bono.
However, if you’re working with a company large enough to have a legal department larger than one overwhelmed lawyer, the contract will likely have a chilling effect on them fucking you over (which is imo the ideal situation for the type of company you need to do this with, they’ll be on their best behavior)
Again, youre acting like laws are magic spells, and the best use for the paper they're written on, the most utility it can provide me, is not to wipe my ass with.
I specifically said that they don’t help you if you don’t have the resources to pursue them, outside of a chilling effect. I expect a little more from my magic spells.
In ages past maybe. Sorry, dismissed after first part, too sick of lib shit.