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[–] thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago (20 children)
[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Ironically, life generally has those cancer cell characteristics.

Is there any population of anything that will self govern it's resource consumption? Or is all life limited by resources and / or predation?

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (12 children)

The difference is surviving species reach equilibrium typically. Humans won't do that in a capitalist system.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think that's a fair comparison.

An ecosystem contains many species at equilibrium, but the ecosystem itself consumes all available resources.

Similarly, companies within a capitalist system maintain a kind of equilibrium, but the system itself will consume all available resources.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

An ecosystem contains many species at equilibrium, but the ecosystem itself consumes all available resources.

But that equilibrium can be maintained by those resources being replenished within the ecosystem through the actions of components of that ecosystem.

In our example, that's not happening. The resources are being exploited and not replaced.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago

That's true, but it doesn't respond to the point I was making.

The comment I replied to was comparing an entire system to a single component within a system.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The problem is the concept of externalities, which means that capitalism will happily overshoot our sustainable resource base, and then collapse. It's the Minsky Moment at ecological scales.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Explain how an ecosystem consumes all available resources.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This seems obvious to me. By definition, an ecosystem includes all inputs.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Well explain it like I'm an idiot.

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