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Kinda hard to do that in the suburbs.
Strong disagree. If you have telephone poles by the road, the power is already there
No telephone poles anywhere near my house. Only along main roads at least 30 mins walk away.
All the household electrical wiring, internet, cable TV, telephone, natural gas, and water services are underground.
So yeah...power is already there
Yeah and it’ll cost millions to tear up the roads and install overhead wires for the bus, just to service 1 neighbourhood out of hundreds, where hardly anyone uses public transit as it is.
They’d have to tear down all the tall trees in the neighbourhood to make room for the power poles. There’s no way in hell the car-centric folks who live here would approve of that!
When you walk down the sidewalk around my street you walk in the shade of these trees most of the time. Replacing those trees with ugly power poles and overhead wires would ruin the character of the neighbourhood.
Don't you realize how much it will cost us to not do that?
Sometimes we get stuck in local extrema. The biggest challenge facing the human race is not climate change, it’s collective action. Simply put, we’re unable to cooperate effectively enough on a large scale to be able to deal with these sorts of problems.
My city could invest billions of dollars in building a fully electric streetcar transit network and climate change could still proceed largely unabated due to the actions of other people in other areas. In that scenario, my city ends up losing because climate change happened and we wasted all that money on a system that didn’t stop climate change. This is the worse possible outcome so the rational thing (on an individual level, see game theory) to do is avoid it by doing nothing.
Well, that's kind of the problem we're trying to fix here
There are lots of people who use public transit in my city, they just don’t live in the suburbs.
Well, that's kind of another problem we're trying to fix here